Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > GasGas Enduro Technical Forums > Enduro Suspension

Enduro Suspension Tuning & maintenance of Enduro forks, shocks, etc


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-28-2012, 02:17 AM
moto9's Avatar
moto9 moto9 is offline
Silver Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 367
Default MOOSE SHOCK SEALHEAD(lowered the bike.)

I got my sachs shock back together after getting the top eye repaired.

I had a new Moose seal head (parts unlimited #1314-0266) that I wanted to

try which is almost 1/2" taller.

This lowered the bike about an inch, I slid the forks higher in the clamps

to level the bike out....still need seat time to see if I like the changes.

Just wanted to share that this is an alternative way for those that want to

lower the bike some.


Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 03-28-2012, 10:51 AM
Synergy-Seals Synergy-Seals is offline
Site Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 193
Default

You will notice that your shock will feel spikier sooner in the stroke.....you removed "area" in the shock.
__________________
www.synergyseals.com
209-938-9726
Being BOLD is BOLD! However, being confident is certain!
Ride with confidence again!

Made in the USA
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-28-2012, 11:39 AM
moto9's Avatar
moto9 moto9 is offline
Silver Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 367
Default

I revalved it and I'll have to get some rides in to see if I like the changes.
If I don't I'll switch it back.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-28-2012, 12:08 PM
PEB PEB is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,152
Default

Does that mean you could raise it with a shorter one? I'd love to raise the bike about an inch.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-29-2012, 12:17 AM
moto9's Avatar
moto9 moto9 is offline
Silver Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 367
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PEB View Post
Does that mean you could raise it with a shorter one? I'd love to raise the bike about an inch.
I don't think you'd be able to get a full inch because the linkage would lockout.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-29-2012, 08:42 AM
twowheels's Avatar
twowheels twowheels is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Dearborn MI
Posts: 1,860
Default

The Sachs shocks have at various times in the past used a clevis with an oval insert to locate the lower shock bolt. You can run the bolt in the top location to effectively make the shock shorter, or flip it around and make the ride height taller. None of this affects shock travel, which unfortunately an internal spacer does.
__________________
Steven Beane #275
PlusOnePerformance - Superior Service the World Over - Dearborn MI
AMA District 14 (Michigan) Officer

afterhourscycle.com
Michigan's Beta and TM Race Headquarters
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-29-2012, 09:26 AM
webmaster's Avatar
webmaster webmaster is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Portland, Oregon, U.S.A.
Posts: 1,789
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Synergy-Seals View Post
You will notice that your shock will feel spikier sooner in the stroke.....you removed "area" in the shock.
This isn't correct. Removing "volume" from the shock won't make it "spikier sooner in the stroke. Given a properly set piston depth, the nitrogen volume will be the same. You will have a little less fluid in the shock and that's it.. And, as the shock goes through the stroke, the change in nitrogen volume (pressure) will be identical to what it was before the seal head change.

Jeff
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-29-2012, 09:34 AM
webmaster's Avatar
webmaster webmaster is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Portland, Oregon, U.S.A.
Posts: 1,789
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PEB View Post
Does that mean you could raise it with a shorter one? I'd love to raise the bike about an inch.
Les at LTR used to make shorter links (dog bones) for the quad. These will raise the back end. Check with him as he might still have some lying around.

jeff
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-29-2012, 09:39 AM
GMP's Avatar
GMP GMP is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jefferson Twp., NJ
Posts: 7,601
Default

If the shock is shorter, the linkage starts out its movement at a more progressive point on the curve (higher shaft speed). This is why you have to revalve them when shortened and what I suspect moto9 did. Like Jeff said though the shock volume has nothing to do with it.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-29-2012, 11:56 AM
moto9's Avatar
moto9 moto9 is offline
Silver Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 367
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by webmaster View Post
This isn't correct. Removing "volume" from the shock won't make it "spikier sooner in the stroke. Given a properly set piston depth, the nitrogen volume will be the same. You will have a little less fluid in the shock and that's it.. And, as the shock goes through the stroke, the change in nitrogen volume (pressure) will be identical to what it was before the seal head change.

Jeff
Did I mention I converted the shock over to a bladder.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Moose footpegs REVERUP Enduro Chassis & Body 9 07-29-2011 08:21 AM
Lowered Suspension BULTACOBRIS Enduro Suspension 9 10-25-2009 07:33 PM
Moose bars splint General Discussions & Announcements 3 09-06-2009 06:34 PM
Has my bike been lowered? tomatoe333 Enduro Suspension 1 03-20-2009 05:47 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org