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Old 05-21-2009, 08:50 AM
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Default Grabby front brakes

Anyone got any suggestions on front brake pads?

I put some new pads in there that came in a box of misc. spares when I bought the bike and they are extremely grabby. A ham-fisted stab at the right lever will put you over the bars before you know it. Don't ask me how I know... They also groan/squeak and feel like they're grinding away my rotor...

These pads were not packaged so I don't know what they are, but I don't like 'em. I'd like to find some far less aggressive pads if there are any available.


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Old 05-21-2009, 11:10 AM
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They may be sintered pads since you hear noise under braking. My front brake is also sensitive, but I like it that way. Also, I prefer carbon pads on front (Moose M1) and sintered pads on rear (Moose XCR?).

One quick option that you can do is "grind" some relief grooves in the pads. By removing some material, you are reducing the surface area. Instead of one large area, you can divide it into several smaller areas. May be worth a try if you are buying new pads anyways.
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:34 AM
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My front brake is also sensitive
Sensitive yes, but they're more like an on-off switch now. True there is not much excuse for ham fisting the front brake, but all finesse goes out the window when I exit a blind corner (with confidence ) and "they" put a tree where I thought the trail was headed.

Are your carbon pads less grabby than a sintert (sp?) pad?

To add insult to injury the bike landed ass-end-to and packed the brand new Q Stealth with mud. After being perplexed awhile about it not starting another rider finally came by and alerted me to the mudcake. Should have figgered' it out myself since it acted exactly how it does when you forget to yank the wash plug after cleaning.
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Old 05-23-2009, 07:29 AM
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I like carbon for their stronger feel. My front brake is one finger with light touch. So it is pretty sensitive. I don't think it is on/off like you describe.

Also, check your front rotor. If it is heavily grooved from the pads, it may be hanging up the pads during contact.
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:03 AM
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Thanks for your suggestions Matt,

Looks like you're the only one "interested" in brake pads...

I'll have to look closer, but the front rotor is pretty worn, probably grooved.

Got any suggestions for an economical front rotor? I didn't check GoFasters, but I'd bet the OEM unit is spendy...
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Honestly, it would have to be a deep grooved shoulder to hold the pads. With the bike on a stand, you could spin and see if the pads are "locking" on to the rotor. By the way, my rotor has a slight stepped shoulder from wear and the pads don't hang up.

Another thing to consider is if the rotor is warp/bent slightly. As it rotates, it may want to grab in one spot more and give the feeling of on/off. My Husky SM610 has a slight warped rotor and pulsates like this. It is very hard to modulate gently without getting a on/off feel to it.

Regarding a new rotor...
I think only a GG OEM front rotor is available. I don't believe there are any crossover rotors. The rear rotor may crossover to KTM but that is a different story. Actually, the OEM rotor is pretty durable and price is fair... if you end up needing a new one.
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I think there are wave rotor available but they were like 440 more than tyhe Oem which I want to say was $90. I recently saw an aftermarket rotor and pads on E-bay for cheap.
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Braking makes a front rotor.
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I also like less grabby front brakes and usually look for an organic or carbon/kevlar pad like this EBC pad.

http://www.ebcbrakes.com/motorcycle_...carbonmx.shtml
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Thanks for all the comments.
I'll maybe give some of those EBC carbon "X" pads a shot.
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