Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > GasGas Enduro Technical Forums > Enduro Product Reviews

Enduro Product Reviews Feedback & Comments on Products Tested


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-17-2018, 06:08 AM
Wypipo Wypipo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 131
Default XC vs EC suspension

Talking to several dealers the suspension is exactly the same. Watching a bunch of reviews on YouTube the XC has a slightly stiffer suspension. Which is it on 2018 300s ?


Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 09-17-2018, 06:48 AM
gasgasman's Avatar
gasgasman gasgasman is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pearland Texas
Posts: 4,594
Default

Both the same.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-17-2018, 11:43 AM
AZRickD AZRickD is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,838
Default

There were two very popular video reviewers who claimed the EC was softer (and the XC was already too soft for these Men of Moto). That was the usually excellent ?Cross Trainer? channel from Aussie Land, and the other was one of the ?Dirt Bike? branded sites.

Everybody else says the are the same. That?s not to say that it might be good to have the EC somewhat softer. But sourcing that from Kayaba might be an extra challenge.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-17-2018, 01:32 PM
GasGas's Avatar
GasGas GasGas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 694
Default

I just rode both back to back on the weekend. The EC does seem softer, but I didn't mess with any clickers on the XC and that may have been the only difference. The EC was set to comfort as per the owners manual. The XC was a demo that gets raced once a month by a local fast guy, then goes back to the dealer in-between races for trail ride and demo duty, so I expect he may have it dialed up for the hard hits. The importer can't seem to answer the question either. I can tell you the FMF head pipe makes a big difference though.
__________________
2018 EC 300
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-17-2018, 02:31 PM
AZRickD AZRickD is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,838
Default

I think you might be on to something regarding the perceived difference.

Clickers.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-17-2018, 03:33 PM
memphis2857 memphis2857 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 970
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AZRickD View Post
There were two very popular video reviewers who claimed the EC was softer (and the XC was already too soft for these Men of Moto). That was the usually excellent ?Cross Trainer? channel from Aussie Land, and the other was one of the ?Dirt Bike? branded sites.



Everybody else says the are the same. That?s not to say that it might be good to have the EC somewhat softer. But sourcing that from Kayaba might be an extra challenge.


The Aussie review of the bike was a load of crap. There is no doubt he is a Beta fan boy


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-17-2018, 03:52 PM
Jakobi's Avatar
Jakobi Jakobi is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 7,994
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by memphis2857 View Post
The Aussie review of the bike was a load of crap. There is no doubt he is a Beta fan boy
Given how closely he works with Tim Coleman, and that Timmy is in agreement with Beta it only makes sense from a marketing point for him to favour certain brands. Certainly nothing new in the industry!!

Every bike is a little different. Suspension takes time to bed in, clickers make differences, but even tuners who have dynos can find differences in performance between runs with the same valving in the same shock. Bum dyno always lies too!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-19-2018, 11:00 AM
Doc Brown Doc Brown is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Austria, Europe
Posts: 586
Default

I have a 2018 GP (36 hours) and a 2019 EC (6 hours), both 300's.

When the EC had 3 hours I rode it back to back with the GP. GPs fork was set to "comfort", the EC's to "standard". Both felt the same. That lets me believe that the GP is set up stiffer.

Cheers Doc
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-01-2018, 05:16 AM
jpgibson's Avatar
jpgibson jpgibson is offline
Bronze Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 52
Default

Suspension is totally subjective- we all like different things. ADB( in OZ), thought the stock GG suspension was very firm. I thought it was soft/perfect. Also depends what you're doing on it- 5kph rock hopping or 140 kph fire roads.
Sure Barry seems tied to Beta, but I like his work and I appreciate the many hours he puts into producing the videos, and I do think he tells it like he sees it.
My bro just swapped out of an '18 GG 250 into a '18 Beta 300: whilst the Beta fork is no KYB, it's pretty bloody good and perfect for the riding he does ( trying- often successfully- to be Jarvis-like).
The most interesting thing is I know 5 guys with 18's: none have changed the springs ( and their weight range is 75-> 100kg ) and all love the GG suspension.
Must be pretty good right?!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-01-2018, 04:31 PM
Jakobi's Avatar
Jakobi Jakobi is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 7,994
Default

I'll let you know Jon.. When I ride the bloody thing. I'm very interested to compare it back to back with what I had previously, which you will have soon!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
help with 03 200 suspension XR250R64 General Discussions & Announcements 0 09-10-2012 07:20 AM
STM Suspension Mod's mlbco Enduro Suspension 5 01-29-2012 10:00 PM
Suspension oil? BIG TOOL Enduro Suspension 8 02-06-2008 01:34 PM
EC 200 Suspension Gas Huffer General Discussions & Announcements 3 11-13-2007 10:34 AM
Who does your suspension? thelonius Enduro Suspension 5 06-13-2007 09:14 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org