New Husqvarna 300 Two Stroke Factory Bike

[Bandit9]

So really the only real benefit to the consumer, unless you are the rare 2stroke owner/activist, is that OEM's are more inclined to produce a cleaner DI 2stroke, thus creating competition, thus more resources for R&D, thus better bikes for us long term.....

In the very short term, like next 2014, there is no benefit.

Am I off base here?

[erniebearskin]

DI would also would also do away with jetting BS. Jakobi will be awfully bored!!

[Hawkeye]

If your going to bash....start your own thread! if not, offer some insight to the current topic!

I'm always one to offer constructive criticism to GG about how to make their product more competitive, and after a decade of saying the same things, I guess my message gets more strident to reach deaf Spanish ears. I hope the factory monitors this board, as it would confirm what improvements they need to make, as they haven't been very keen on accepting that the need for change and the pace for change is accelerating.

I think Husky will sell a lot of bikes in the US, if they offer a product that is 1) different enough from KTM, 2) that meets modern standards of quality expected in today's market, 3) has a strong dealer network that is backed with detailed technical support, and efficient parts delivery and warranty, and attractive dealer financing for bikes. The forth major part of being successful in selling a lot of bikes (at least in the US) is a comprehensive marketing plan that includes demo rides, some sponsorship of pro riders, and getting the bikes out to the market at the same time competitors do.

I think KTM has all of the resources to do just that for the Husky brand, while GG has the first item completely covered, and is hopefully improving on the second. IMHO GG needs to really step up on the third and forth items.

I could ride any of the brands today and be competitive, after ergonomic and suspension setup for me. I'm not fast enough to even come close to their performance limits of any of the KTM's, GG's, Beta's, whatever. I'll just state my main point I've been harping on for a decade - the GG factory needs to step up and help their US distributor gain back market share and improve the brand image to avoid being relegated to a minor exotic brand here.

The owners of Husky intended to buy low and sell high, they got a deal from BMW and they saw a way to increase Husky's sales and do so profitably. Where will those sales come from? Some die hard Husky fans (regardless of technology), some who left the brand, some from other brands, and very few from new buyers that have never owned a dirt bike before.

Fire away...

[Bandit9]

Hawk, don't take this the wrong way, but is any of that a surprise to you? Some companies are what they are. GG is consistent. They always take a few steps forward, then a number of steps back and in, some cases, no step at all. Despite all of that, the bike itself is still a great handling bike once debugged and dialed. If you like, buy, if you don't like, don't.

It's becoming trollish on your part.

[Hawkeye]

Trollish, I hadn't thought of that...

Went to Urban Dictionary to make sure I understood what that meant. Found several definitions. Did you mean by trollish that I'm "One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument."

Or, "One of many unsung internet heroes who are almost entirely misunderstood. Contrary to popular belief, many trolls are actually quite intelligent. Their habitual attacks on forums is usually a result of their awareness of the pretentiousness and excessive self-importance of many forum enthusiasts. As much as people may hate trolls, they are highly effective - their actions bring much of the stupidity of other forum users out into the great wide open."

I still own a GG and for some reason would still like to see them succeed more. I probably should move on from that state of being.

[Bandit9]

Who am I to get in the way of progress? If it means they will fix all that stuff, then go for it man. Just mix in a little positive stuff so we don't think crazy trollish thoughts on your part.

[swazi_matt]

Well I see Letti decided that he may as well call a spade a spade and has joined ktm

[Darkside]

C'mon guys. they even said the 2014 Huskys will be rebadged Husabergs until Husky has time to developed their own technologies. Undoubtely off a KTM platform.

[Jakobi]

Originally Posted by erniebearskin

DI would also would also do away with jetting BS. Jakobi will be awfully bored!!

This one slipped past me.. No time for me to be bored Always got something to keep the noggin tickin over.. That smart carb kept me busier than the PWK ever did.

Back on topic. Lets see more pictures.

Not sure why people get upset by Hawkeyes posts.. He makes some valid points.. Sometimes it looks like he's all praise for the other brands, and all about bagging the ggs, but I don't see it like that. I just think he's a bit frustrated in seeing the same issues year in and year out. Truth is all brands have them, so pick a colour and be happy. The new husky has nice colours, but is nothing more than a ktm.. and ktm ergo's don't work for me. When the time comes to upgrade it won't even be a consideration. Sherco, GG or heaven forbid, Beta.. will all be very valid options.

[Bandit9]

If the clutch drags, the needle is way off, it has a engine and swing arm that adds 20 pounds to the old Husaberg chassis, and it comes out 3 months after the competition's bikes hit the market, it may have an audience here!

This isn't antagonistic/trollish? In a Gas Gas forum?


If bitching on a forum ever changed how GG built a bike, then we would all been on 200lb DI FI Wide Ratio Auto Clutched Adjustable PV from the factory 2 strokes for 10 years now.

They don't listen to their importer or their dealers, and they surely don't listen to us on this forum. So all this so called "crusade" to get them to change is just noise in the system and negativity.