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GasGas History
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This following information is a collection of data submitted by various members of this forum. I have summarized the information below to help educate new people on the history of GasGas bikes in North America. Enjoy! GasGas Off-Road Model Indicators:
History of GasGas in the United States:
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Matt Current: 2009 Yamaha FZ1 Previous: 2001 GasGas TXT280, 2001 GasGas XC250, 2004 KTM 200EXC, 2007 GasGas EC250, 2007 Husqvarna SM610, 2008 Husqvarna WB165 |
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GasGas History Continued...
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Matt Current: 2009 Yamaha FZ1 Previous: 2001 GasGas TXT280, 2001 GasGas XC250, 2004 KTM 200EXC, 2007 GasGas EC250, 2007 Husqvarna SM610, 2008 Husqvarna WB165 |
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GasGas History Continued...
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Matt Current: 2009 Yamaha FZ1 Previous: 2001 GasGas TXT280, 2001 GasGas XC250, 2004 KTM 200EXC, 2007 GasGas EC250, 2007 Husqvarna SM610, 2008 Husqvarna WB165 |
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•DE specific changes included: simplified wiring harness without turn signal or horn wiring, two button handlebar switch – headlight and kill button, smaller flywheel and smaller output coil, no speedometer/odometer/clock – the cable was installed however, and MC ignition.
are you sure about the mc ignition?? I was under the impression that it was an ec w/just a lighter fly wheel?? My 06 was a de, I thought the de's got dropped in 07?? quite the run down btw!! I appreciate the time neccessary for the write up |
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The "DE or XC" has been the black sheep of the GG family. It really could be any combination of parts that the customer wanted. That description should be fairly representative of the DE/XC bike. The DE/XC bike definitely would have the smaller flywheel with less lighting output (about 35W)... this is what we call the Kokusan 2K-2. The EC is a heavy flywheel with more lighting output (about 70W)... this is what we call the Kokusan 2K-3. The MC bike would have a small flywheel with no lighting coil... I think this is a Kokusan 2K-1 (if I recall correctly).
Regarding the MC ignition, some of the the DE/XC bikes had the MC CDI installed. Others may have kept the EC CDI. Also, the cylinder head for the DE/XC bikes often had the higher compression head of MC bikes. So yes, it is confusing to say the least. The 2006 was a transitional year, you are probably right that the DE's ended in '06. How many were offered is questionable. The '07 bikes would have been more EC-based with a few DE-type bikes custom built from what I hear members discussing.
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Matt Current: 2009 Yamaha FZ1 Previous: 2001 GasGas TXT280, 2001 GasGas XC250, 2004 KTM 200EXC, 2007 GasGas EC250, 2007 Husqvarna SM610, 2008 Husqvarna WB165 |
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is there anything on the cdi to identify if it is mc or ec??
going to have to go take a look at mine .... |
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My '07 EC is actually a "DE", although it is not designated as one.
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I'm curious, are the part numbers on the head differant EC vs XC/MC? Or is it the same head (part number stamp) machined for higher compression with no markings? MattR, fantastic write-up. Where/when did the "Race" edition come in? I'm curious because seems I remember it was 2007-ish but I saw a post once with someone calling their '01 or '02 a Race edition
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jeff '00 XC250 (mine) LTS front and rear suspension, power valve cover, carb jet kit and rear chain glide, RB Designs head mod, BRP tall triple clamp, backyard foot-peg lowering conversion. '04 EC250 (the kids) (he can do his own mods haha!) |
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Thanks. Very enlightening.
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Jostby,
I think you are right about the CDI's being identified by the colored wire wrap. The earlier parts manuals from 2001-2003 show the CDI's being different part numbers for the 200, 250, and 300. Later years only show a common part number. No special part numbers have been listed in the manuals for the MC bikes, although I remember folks discussing the more aggressive mapping of the MC bikes. I believe CDI's were mapped differently and the wire wrap altered as an identifier for GG folks. The "race" editions have been more recent... at least marketed that way since 2007. The earlier years had SE (special editions) that were more race oriented with Ohlins full suspension, gold rims, etc.. Regarding the high compression heads, they should have a unique part number such as MCxxxxxx while the standard heads would have been MExxxxxx (based on GG typical part numbering).
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Matt Current: 2009 Yamaha FZ1 Previous: 2001 GasGas TXT280, 2001 GasGas XC250, 2004 KTM 200EXC, 2007 GasGas EC250, 2007 Husqvarna SM610, 2008 Husqvarna WB165 |
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