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Old 08-29-2010, 02:01 PM
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Default What about the EC250f?...

I haven't heard much about the Yammie powered 250f in the 4t section. Does anyone have any knowledge of how they are performing? It appears to be a good match up with the fine handling chassis and very potent motor. Any good reviews of the machine? Thanks!
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:38 PM
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There have been a few reviews elsewhere and they are very positive. There just hasn't been a lot of bikes out there so far.
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Old 08-29-2010, 05:41 PM
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I don't see what could be wrong with it. Probably the best 250 four stroke engine on the planet, though Husqvarna might argue with that.. Matched with a far better chassis than Yamaha offers. I'd want one, but it has two too many strokes.
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Husky can argue all they want, but the Yam has the reliability track record to beat. In general if you follow reports on the new Husky you will find it has its problems. The Yam motor is like an HD big twin or 350 Chevy in the sense that there are parts on every corner. I have ridden a couple Yamahas in some slick nasty terrain, and they were easy to ride except for the extra seat height that I was not used to. Yeah I'd love to try the GG250F, I'd also like to know what one weighs ready to go.
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Old 08-29-2010, 07:36 PM
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Yeah I'd love to try the GG250F, I'd also like to know what one weighs ready to go.
I was told at the dealer show last year that they weighed the new bikes and the pre-production 250f weighed within 2 pounds of the 2010 ec300. Production models have a different gas tank and muffler but probably aren't any heavier. The production bikes also have a hydraulic clutch cable conversion that the bike at the dealer show didn't have.
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Old 08-30-2010, 08:04 AM
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They tested it over here and it received a bit of criticism. Suspension was still a bit harsh and the motor wasn't setup right. Since that the UK models have been shipping with a different end can. The summary was that it wasn't bad but the actual Yam was better, a little cheaper and KTM have moved 250F on a notch beyond the Yam as well. They thought if you wanted easier to ride and reliability you'd probably buy Yamaha, if you wanted ultimate 250F performance you'd get a KTM. Having borrowed a KTM for a race due to my FSE450 blowing it's fork seals on the trailer I can report the KTM is a cracking little bike. Had I not known I would've thought it was bigger than a 250 the way it went once it started revving.

Having said that I think the Husky TE310 and the KTM 350 when it arrives in enduro trim will be the ideal bikes for UK enduro. Easy to ride but with a tad more torque than a 250F.
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:39 AM
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hey there.i rode the new 250f .it is very nice.i live on vancouver island in canada and the trails here are very slow...i didnt get a chance to open it right up ...4th and 5th gear...but i rode it back to back with a yamaha wr250f and it blows the doors off the yammy...i have ridden the yz and wr 250f ever since they came out...the gas gas set up is definitely way better...i am partial to gassers but i do love the yz motor...what gasgas has for a muffler and their jetting is so much better than the corked up wr...it has very good grunt and pulls hard...it even sounds nice...oh yah ,they modified the yammy clutch and attached a hydraulic unit to it...it works very well...twice as easy to pull...no adjustment...yummy...the bike doesnt feel as heavy as i know it is...im guessing it weighs around 250lbs...real weight...i would definitely consider the bike if your compaing it to japanese stuff...it turns way better than a ktm in the tight stuff too...dave at gasgas pacific here on the island was nice enough to have one as a demo.....i love this guy.....if your ever up here somehow im sure he would let you take it for a spin....just be careful...you might end up buying it....see ya
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fishlegs,

Good report and good to hear from someone who has ridden both the WR/YZ and now the Gasser.

I hope to see one at my local dealer soon.
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hey there.i rode the new 250f .it is very nice.i live on vancouver island in canada and the trails here are very slow...i didnt get a chance to open it right up ...4th and 5th gear...but i rode it back to back with a yamaha wr250f and it blows the doors off the yammy...i have ridden the yz and wr 250f ever since they came out...the gas gas set up is definitely way better...i am partial to gassers but i do love the yz motor...what gasgas has for a muffler and their jetting is so much better than the corked up wr...it has very good grunt and pulls hard...it even sounds nice...oh yah ,they modified the yammy clutch and attached a hydraulic unit to it...it works very well...twice as easy to pull...no adjustment...yummy...the bike doesnt feel as heavy as i know it is...im guessing it weighs around 250lbs...real weight...i would definitely consider the bike if your compaing it to japanese stuff...it turns way better than a ktm in the tight stuff too...dave at gasgas pacific here on the island was nice enough to have one as a demo.....i love this guy.....if your ever up here somehow im sure he would let you take it for a spin....just be careful...you might end up buying it....see ya
Well that a very different impression to the ones tested in the UK. I hope it's true. The WR's I've ridden have been good, the KTM better. All turned ok.
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Bought the 250 and except for some jetting issues the little bike is great, it flat out rips [for its size and mine] have installed a jd kit and uncorked the muffler ,still has a little hicup off idle[working on that] but iam very happy with it. I usually like a bigger bike , but this is a fun bike, and really whats perfect out of the box
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