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Old 10-09-2008, 11:07 PM
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wouldn't a 300 also teach a rider to be lazy?? Or maybe some bad habits?? When I got back into it I started with an xr 400 then a drz 400, a brief interlude with a ktm 200 and then my current 300. The 400's and 300 don't require much in the way of clutching ... as a result .. i know nothing about clutch technique. Lots of old guys like me run 300's for the lazy man factor so you can chug along at the end of a long day. The grunty motor will cover for your mistakes. Bet i'd know more about working a clutch and keeping a bike on the pipe if I started with a 125.

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Old 10-10-2008, 08:55 AM
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That you would if you started out on a 125. I love ridding them just because it makes you work for the power especialy at 255lb. I have been thinking about buying one lately but i am still not sure what i want to do.
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Old 10-10-2008, 10:17 AM
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Riding a 125 fast in the woods requires 3 things.

#1 Clutch control
#2 Momentum
#3 A wrist that doesn't allow you to let off the throttle

Without my time on my '87 CR125, I would not be the rider I am today. I went through several clutches while I owned that bike and it took me to the expert class in the TCCRA.
Mike Baxter

2005 GasGas EC300 (Ohlins front and rear)
2007 Yamaha FZ1
2003 Pampera 280(hers)
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Old 10-10-2008, 11:57 AM
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My 17 yr old nephew rides an '01 GG XC125. FMF pipe, 10 oz weight, revalved suspension, thats it. At last weeks Ridge Run enduro, on a lot of WEC terrain, he would have dominated the entire C class by over 20 points if it weren't for two bad burns (no timekeeping), still took second C200. This was a really tough run with long steep hills and some deep mud. It was outstanding to watch. Three races, two wins and a second. The bikes are capable.
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Old 10-13-2008, 09:35 PM
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I am a 125 guy, really. I love 'em. They're cheap, and they are a riot to ride, but I still think, that if you are growing and moving up in bike sizes, I'd ilke to give my son a chance to keep up without working the snot out of his clutch. I remember my dad used to teach me to use the motor, and not to rely on the clutch. He would get upset with me burning up clutches on my CR, (so he bought me a KTM which never burned a clutch, that was 1984), he would say, "son, that clutch is not a turbo button, if you have to rev your engine like that with the clutch 1/2 way in, you've lost momentum." Of course, I used it like a turbo button anyway. Maybe I never burned up a clutch on that KTM because the brakes didn't work! In those days, they were still sorting out brakes, and the KTM's were grim. Did I get off topic, sorry.
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