Kick starter seized help?

[nambo-trev]

Hey guys got back from a gnarly one today and outta the blue the kick starter is seized up. I know this is not good at all, can roll it either. My clutch seems to be intact so do you think the crank seized? My nambo has maybe 20 hours on it so I'm very confused any help would be great!

[Keg]

Originally Posted by nambo-trev

... can roll it either.

I assume you mean you 'can't' roll it over. Take the spark plug out and try to turn it over with the flywheel when in neutral. That will tell you if it is crank/piston related.

Take the exhaust off and have a look at the piston.

[nambo-trev]

thanks keg im on it right now ill let you know

[nambo-trev]

ok well thanks alot keg i took the plug out and spun the wheel in gear cause kick was still siezed and it is moving freely again, if you dont mind can you explain what you think happened?

[nambo-trev]

i went out and put the pllug back in and it didnt want to kick but i reefed on the kick and it let go and she started up.do you think something was jammed in the silencer?

[Keg]

With the plug out, did the kicker work?

Just trying to work out if the piston is seized or the kick starter is an issue. If you can turn the motor by the flywheel with the plug out, I would think it is clutch, kicker or gearbox issue.

If you have just un-seized it now by swinging on the kicker, I would be pulling the top off it. For the price of a bit of coolant and 2 head orings, I would be having a look....after you have had a look through the exhaust to see the piston.

I blocked muffler wont stop a motor turning over.

[nambo-trev]

yes with the plug out the kicker worked but not initially i spun the rear wheel first then tried the kick starter again and it moved freely, i then put the plug in and it seemed stuck at the kick starter and then it just released. i kicked it over and it fired the first time. i went down the block with it went through all the gears and ran like it always does?

[ramcclure200]

Nambo, my 2004 DE200 stalled while riding one day and then it would not kick over at all when inspected one of the stuffer plate screws backed out and got lodged in the bottom end.
I had some pictures as soon as i can locate them i'll try to post.

[nambo-trev]

thanks for the help id like to see those pics if you can locate them. were you able to start your bike again until you replaced the bolt? just wondering because mine is running completely fine now. i know something has had to happen to make this occur but ive checked half of what everyone told me to do and so far it looks all good. if i get the primary cover off and nothing is backed off and there is no chunks of anything causing problems do i just go back to status quo and ride it? its tough when you dont find problems because the bikes brand new and i dont want to be rebuilding after 4 rides.

[ramcclure200]

http://picasaweb.google.com/ramcclur...62965982657714

Found it, in my case the motor stayed locked until I got the screw unjammed.
you can see sort of shiny spot on the side of rod where screw had started backing out and rubbing rod.

I guess if screw became dislodged and fell into bottom end it would go back to being able to kickover but screw would eventually find its way to do more damage.