18's sure look to have the right parts.

[Tech51]

With a name like JP4 i can see why you would rant

[swazi_matt]

Originally Posted by JP4

They're maxing fuel efficiency for profitability, not emissions reductions.

I wonder what emission controls are forced upon commercial aircraft jet engine manufacturers? I suspect none.

I'm also curious as to the amount of emissions produced by one 787 transatlantic flight versus a year's worth of emissions for all 2-t off-road bikes in Europe and the Americas.

It seems the international technocrats pick and choose who emission reductions apply to. Illogical madness I say.

Rant over, back to your scheduled programming ...

That was what I was getting at. We may be burning dirtier per gallon, but per year probably produce fewer tones of carbon than one intercontinental flight

[CDN Rick]

Originally Posted by pscook

I can say that airlines are squeezing every single percent out of their current fleets. The higher the price of fuel, the higher the price of travel. This is why the 787, 777X, 737Max as well as new and updated Airbus models are being designed and sold. Boeing recently released an improvement package that provides 2% fuel burn per seat on the 777, and it is a big deal.
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Getting the most out of fuel typically increases emissions. Not the other way around. The problem isn't just unburnt fuel. IIRC as fuel is burnt it produces oxides of nitrogen. This mean the more fuel is burnt the more it produces these specific emissions. One study I've read found that by decreasing efficiency by 1% in a coal fired boiler, NOx dropped by 20-60 percent. I realize we don't all burn coal in our dirtbikes or airplanes. But clearly getting the most power out of an engine of any kind will result in higher emissions. Not lower.

Obviously this means that airlines would much rather reduce fuel consumption by providing higher burn rates to get the most out of the fuel they are carrying. Not carry more fuel to get the same distance and lower emissions.

This is all really way over my head. But I'm pretty sure I've got that right. Feel free to call me out if you are smarter than me. You probably are.

[gasgasman]

Guys. Stay on the original topic.

[CDN Rick]

Originally Posted by gasgasman

Guys. Stay on the original topic.

Topic? There was a top.. Ooo look something shiny!!

[Biff]

http://www.mcia.co.uk/Press-and-Stat...tatistics.aspx
Just some info on uk registrations for info

[Nhuskys]

Originally Posted by gasgasman

Guys. Stay on the original topic.

Sorry I mentioned FI at all, even in jest. I'm looking forward to when the new 200 finally makes its appearance! The new bikes just look awesome and I'm ready to try some KYB suspension!

[Elvis74]

A German dealer put the 18' in a scale, 107,8kg with Twinwall handle bar and reinforced cluch cover, ready to ride but without gas


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[Jacob 'Berg]

Originally Posted by Elvis74

A German dealer put the 18' in a scale, 107,8kg with Twinwall handle bar and reinforced cluch cover, ready to ride but without gas


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So, with 10 liters of fuel, 252 pounds wet.

[Elvis74]

Yes, looks like ;-)


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