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Old 03-27-2008, 03:46 PM
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I measured the compression on my gasser ec250 today, and got 125psi with cold engine (WOT). The bike is quite difficult too start and runs really rich, though if the petcock is turned off while the engine is running it runs quite well until it runs out of gas ofcourse.

Below are some pictures i took of the piston through the exhaust port. Time for replacement?





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Old 03-27-2008, 05:33 PM
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You should do the test with a warm engine, and kick until the gauge peaks.

What is your altitude? Hours on motor? Pics look normal, actually good as no blowby is evident. If its rich, look at the float hight and jetting first.
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Old 03-27-2008, 06:01 PM
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Ah yes.. i guess a warm engine would result in higher readings, but I just wanted to check that the piston wasn't completly bust. Altitude is very close to sea level. Not sure how many hours.

I have checked the float height twice and made sure that the floater isn't twisted or damaged in any way. The jetting should be in order, atleast according to the diagram in the service manual.
I'm using a 180 main jet, and with the low temperatures here in sweden I should actually be using a larger one. But still it just floods the engine at full throttle.
I have also tried setting the needle at it's lowest setting. Replaced air filter, spark plug, HT wire, inspected the killswitch, reed valve, exhaust valve without any improvment.

I'm thinking about pushing it into a lake or something soon
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Old 03-27-2008, 06:57 PM
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Has this just started to happened or has been like that for a while ?

What color is the spark plug after a WOT run ?

I'm running a 168 main and a 38 pilot at sea level on a 03 300.

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Old 03-27-2008, 09:15 PM
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I know it sounds obvious, but last year another guy in Sweden had trouble and turns out he had the restrictor plate still in the airboot. Are you sure the PV is opening completely?
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Strange, I'd have thought float height if you hadn't checked.
Is the needle valve ok?

The piston looks in great condition as does the PV.

Jetting seems to vary a lot on Gassers, from bike to bike, for some reason. Think it's like the old quadratic equations, there's always more than one solution with a Gasser.
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Old 03-28-2008, 07:01 AM
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Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions!

kim: it has never been running well, I bought the bike just a month ago.

GMP: I have checked the airboot, no restriction. Well i haven't checked the PV with engine running since i can't get it to run right now. I think the spark plug is really fouled.

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The needle valve is fine, checked for leak by blowing into the fuel inlet with valve closed. No leak.
Yes.. i'm actually thinking about putting a smaller main jet in. The previous owner used the bike in very cold climates so it might need smaller jet ..
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Old 03-28-2008, 09:00 AM
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One other thing you can do is baseline your compression tester on a similar bike that is known to be in good condition. You may find that 125 psi is a good reading using your gage and technique at your elevation.

Have you repacked the silencer and checked that the holes are not plugged with carbon?

If everything else checks out you may have to work on the jetting. I have an '01 EC300 that has required much leaner jetting than normal to get it to run right and some other 300 owners have found the same.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:08 PM
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Yes. I may try the compression tester on another bike.
The silencer has been cleaned & repacked. I'm gonna buy some smaller jets and a new spark plug tomorrow. I'll let you know how it works out.
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:22 PM
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Hi,
I have a 01 EC250 and using 178 / 38 second clip on needle and it runs quite okay, a little bit to rich and planning to go down on main when it gets a bit warmer.

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