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I love my 2 stroke but. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love my 2 stroke but I miss the planted feeling of the 4 stroke. I currently ride a 200, I don't know if it's the nature of the beast but I would like to get some input from you guys. Will a 300 feel as planted as a 4 stroke ?
Any information or points of view would be appreciated. |
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My 300 feels way more planted than my KX450 did. Except I can turn the 300. The KX was a freight train.
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Haven't ridden a GG300, but I know my GG200 is WAY more planted than the orange 300 I had previously. The front end of that bike sucked.
A buddy I ride with regularly rips on an orange 250 4T, he's had the front end re-valved (different spring and valving in the shock too) and the weight of the valve train seems to make the bike feel heavier up front (and overall). Have you done anything with the forks or shock? How about adding a steering damper? The nature of the beast will make it seem a bit more flighty, but getting the forks dialed (and shock) as well as adding a steering damper will help. It's hard for me to ride a 4T after riding 2Ts for so long, engine braking really messes with me...lol. I do like the tractor feel, but not enough to think about switching - prefer the ease of maintenance and power delivery of my little 200. |
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Rode 200's 4 seasons. The Gasgas EC200 is far more stable than the KTM 200. I'm convinced it's because the Gasgas is built on a 250 chassis vs the KTM on the 125.
I feel 200's are inherently less stable than other larger cc bikes. The Gasgas does improve with a steering stabilizer, but it's just the nature of a lighter cc bike with less inertia to keep it feeling planted. I've owned a Gasgas 300 and it's a more planted feel than the 200. It feels less likely to deflect or unstable through obstacles. Switched to a KTM thumper last Fall just cuz and talk about planted! Feels like nothing can knock you off of your line. It's all a trade off though. The thumper doesn't slice and dice through the tight stuff like the 200. |
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Not sure what year you have, but the 12up is the most planted bike I've ever rode 2t or 4t. pick any line you want, no surprises.
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+ 1 Hamilton has hit the nail on the head again. Great handling bikes.
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Ha, didn't you ask this on that "other" forum?
Is it planted feeling or tractability feeling? My GG 300 feels very planted compared to the KTM 300's I had....and it is almost has tractable as my KTM 505. That engine kinda ran like a 2T though as for power delivery, had quite a bit of snap to it. The GG 300 lugs waaay better down. The new KTM 350 XC is supposed to be pretty amazing. haven't had a chance to throw a leg over one yet.
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[QUOTE=Mick;163891]Ha, didn't you ask this on that "other" forum?
Yes I did. Is it planted feeling or tractability feeling? Looking for that planed feeling. |
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My ride is a 2011 EC200.
I guess I will have to try the new ones. |
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If it's truly planted you want, the 200 probably isn't going to be "the"bike for that regardless of the year.
For a truly planted feel, the thumper is the key due to the inertia and low throbby linear power. The best 2-stroke choice would be a 300. |
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