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I'm sorry to hear that Doc. I understand about getting away from it and on to something else. What sucks is it's probably something so simple yet everyone has missed it. Eh. Good luck however you go with things.
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I have no clue what I will do as I cannot sell it in this condition.... but I will buy a new bike soon. |
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My 18 XC300 was a similar pain. One thing after another: REPEATEDLY. I ended up going the same Beta route you propose. 2 months and 32 race hours later on the 19 300RR and I've changed 2 sets of tires, a set of brake pads, the airfilter 4 times and the oil 3 times. Zero problems with that thing. If you go that route I hope you have the same luck and relief I got. I feel I'm faster on the GG but the clutch and motor just won't hold up so it's relegated to a huge waste of money as a backup now. |
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It sounds very good what you say about the Beta. The suspension is my only concern... |
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My buddy bought a Beta earlier this year, 300RR. He never was happy with the forks after multiple valving changes from local tuners and recently installed Ohlins TTX cartridges. He is now happy with the bike. He has had no other complaints with the bike. He said if they were plush enough in the rough stuff they were scary at high speed stuff. I rode it before the cartridge swap and thought they were great but that's me and I'm not quite as fast as he is. Overall I really liked the Beta.
I think it comes down to having a competent tuner that has experience with the Sachs forks to get it right. I don't think any of the local tuners here really know what they are doing with the Sachs other than applying KYB/Showa tuning ideas on them. I know that philosophy doesn't work on the Zokes so I won't send my Zokes but to maybe three tuners in the whole country as they actually have the knowledge base for valving them.
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Straight forward guy. He said if you go the Beta way, plan to invest a lot of money and get Ohlins or Dal Saggio Sphere cartridges. Everything else may help a bit but it will never be a good working fork as long as you just change a shim here and there or try different oils. He also said, that the forks might work for me bone stock as I am not such a fast rider, so I can imagine to try and then decide if it is necessary to change anything. edit: he also said if investing in Ohlins or Dal Soggio he recommends to always put the forks into the next new bike... |
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For the price of a fork revalve with any piston mods you can swap any number of Showa/KYB forks directly into the beta. Many have the exact same overall length and lug offset so there is ZERO geometry change and the Sachs spring dimensions interchange with the KYBs. IF you go Beta, try the forks and if you aren't happy after a break in and test period swap in KYB if you don't thing a simple revalve will get you where you want. 2 of my buddies who have left GG to Beta are happy/content with their forks. One on ZF open chambers and one on CC Race forks. I wanted more out of them and didn't want to dump a bunch of $$ so I swapped mine to Honda KYB forks and axle with a set of custom spacers for a total of $575us. That included all shipping and a KYB OEM fork rebuild kit and 2liters of fork oil. I already had the KYB cap wrench and did the work myself. Again, best of luck either way. |
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Many thanks my friend! It is interesting what you say about the forks. The question is, do I need better ones. I am an average Joe and I am not fast, compared to fast guys I am very slow. But I know it and I know some guys who are also very slow, they just don't know it
I like the Beta's, always wanted one... but, believe it or not, the Gassy works fine again. Not sure if it will stay that way but for the moment it works, I don't know why, that bothers me a bit. I installed another clutch master cylinder a guy lend me. before I installed it I cleaned the master cylinder and installed a repair kit. But, you already know it, it didn't change anything. In a flush of anger I put it in 5th gear held the throttle wide open and slipped the clutch. Did it 5 times and really tortured it. I was so angry I wished it would explode. Then started in first WOT and shifted without closing throttle, just using the clutch. Still furious I did something I never would have thought, I drained the oil and filled the gearbox with ATF. Since decades I preach don't use ATF. But since I filled the ATF (Castrol Dex II) it works. Not 100% but 90. I really could live with that. Now I don't know why it works. Can it really be the oil? Its ATF its fucking made for automatic transmissions, how can this be. I mean I changed the darn whole clutch, basket hub, plate, slave, master. Every-fucking-thing. Then I fill ATF and all is good??? |
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