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Old 02-12-2018, 11:02 PM
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Default 2stroke oil- full,semi or neither

Hi guys, I have just got back in the 2 strike game by purchasing a 2012 gas gas 300r and I need to get up too speed with oil. The advantage of full synthetic in my eyes is over ruled by the cost. Can these machines run properly and keep engin ware down on semi or less 2 stroke oil?

The only mod the bike has is a power valve port block, is there any other mods that are easy and cost effective

Also where is the mapping switch supposed to go, mine is on a radiator hoses?
Thanks in advance for the advice
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:19 AM
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Damo18,
Can't really help with the oil question as I have always used the recommended.. However on my 2012 I moved the mapping switch up onto the handle bars. Was much easier to switch when needed but I did find that occasionally I would switch it accidentally..
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:03 AM
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I have found my bike runs better (at least according to my ear) with motul 710. Wear is good. It doesn't answer your questions as it runs worse with motul 800 (and other fully synthetic oils) which is higher quality. I would suggest just using (and jetting accordingly) the oil that is easiest to find near you and stick with it

I have my switch on the handlebars as well, but honestly hardly ever use it so it might as well be on the radiator hose

PV spacer is probably my best mod, especially for hard enduro
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Old 02-14-2018, 12:59 PM
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If you're in the UK, exol fully synth is dirt cheap. I run it at 32:1, no problems at all!

Every study ever conducted has shown that more oil is better than less, but more expensive oil. Only problem is your jetting will have to be spot on!
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:28 PM
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thanks guys.

With the mapping switch, is there enough cabling to move to the handle bars with out added to the length of cable?
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:32 PM
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Can I ask is there anyone out there who does use a semi-synethetic 2T oil and is liking it?

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Old 02-14-2018, 11:14 PM
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You have raised an interesting point. When using a good quality synthetic oil you have piece of mind that you can go a bit lean at times (hopefully) without dire consequences
With a low spec oil you will prob want to make sure your jetting is correct
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:42 AM
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More so the fact that a rich bike with more oil will let you know the jetting is off by loading up etc.
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:59 PM
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Who cares how the oil is made, as long it meets the recommend specs from Gasgas.
I use only Motul 800, but I run it in my 125 and 144. In a 250 or 300 I would use a oil with a lower flame point like the Motul 710.
I run my motors with 1:50 to 1:60


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Old 02-15-2018, 08:33 AM
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You have raised an interesting point. When using a good quality synthetic oil you have piece of mind that you can go a bit lean at times (hopefully) without dire consequences
With a low spec oil you will prob want to make sure your jetting is correct


When you compare the specs from all the big manufacturers, they recommend 1:32 on mineral oil and 1:50 or 1:60 ob fully synthetic oil.
I honestly never spend a thought on using mineral oil instead of the fully synthetic racing oil motul 800.


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