Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > GasGas Enduro Technical Forums > Enduro Engine - 2 stroke

Enduro Engine - 2 stroke Cylinder, Piston, Tranny, Bearings, Clutch, Pipes & Silencers, etc.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-17-2016, 02:17 AM
GGRider01 GGRider01 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 483
Default Kickstart slipping.

I've had this problem on and off for some time and never thought much of it but the more I think about it, the more I'm concerned. I've always pushed the piston past TDC before giving it a firm kick, but even then sometimes it feels like the kicker is slipping a tooth. I've had the cover off not too long ago and didn't see anything concerning which confuses me quite a bit. Any thoughts?


Reply With Quote


  #2  
Old 01-17-2016, 03:16 AM
twowheels's Avatar
twowheels twowheels is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Dearborn MI
Posts: 1,860
Default

The mating teeth have worn (and it doesn't take much) and the spring could also be weak. Not a difficult repair, but you're in for a handful of parts and an hour or so to get it sorted.
__________________
Steven Beane #275
PlusOnePerformance - Superior Service the World Over - Dearborn MI
AMA District 14 (Michigan) Officer

afterhourscycle.com
Michigan's Beta and TM Race Headquarters
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-17-2016, 03:19 AM
Jakobi's Avatar
Jakobi Jakobi is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 7,994
Default

If its been slipping for some time you'll need to replace the pinion and rachet, and consider the spring too.

The issue comes from the spring tension being too weak to engage the teeth fully, and slipping then allows the edges of the teeth to sheer. This isn't always visible with the naked eye, but does effect the engagement.

Some have had luck simply replacing the springs, others have stretched the stock spring a little.. but in most cases if the slipping has happened for a while its best to replace all 3 components.

ME25636006
ME120126004
ME250126002
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-17-2016, 01:10 PM
GGRider01 GGRider01 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 483
Default

Awesome. Simple repair and not too outrageous. Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-21-2016, 12:25 PM
MNKeith MNKeith is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 105
Default

If you get into it far enough to do the spring, do the ratchet gear. Once you have the new one in hand, the wear on the old will be more obvious. Did mine this year and no more slipping.

I also need to routinely remind myself that it really doesn't take much to start these bikes. Not kicking the hell out of it is better for you and the bike.
__________________
-Keith

'08 EC250 and some other bikes.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-24-2016, 01:31 AM
GGRider01 GGRider01 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 483
Default

I intend on ordering all 3 parts, if only I could find them in stock.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-24-2016, 08:43 AM
Zman's Avatar
Zman Zman is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Burbs of Chicago
Posts: 1,818
Default

If can not find a new one there is one on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-GasGas-...tV9yZo&vxp=mtr
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-24-2016, 10:45 AM
gasser's Avatar
gasser gasser is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cookeville, TN
Posts: 1,458
Default

Stretching the spring will increase its tension. Just grab both ends and pull till you make the spring roughly one and 1/2 times as long as it was. This little trick is often enough to make starter work normally even if there is some wear to the engagement gears.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-25-2016, 11:40 AM
mcnut's Avatar
mcnut mcnut is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: N. Manchester IN
Posts: 634
Default

I have all the parts you need in my classified ad on this site. Cheap fix!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-25-2016, 02:55 PM
GGRider01 GGRider01 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 483
Default

I wasn't able to find the thread by looking in your post history, so I shot you a PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Yz kickstart Diggs345 "Wanted to Buy" & "Want To Trade" 14 12-04-2016 09:22 PM
Kickstart Knobbly United Kingdom 4 03-25-2013 02:13 PM
FSR 450 2007 clutch slipping chapp44 General Discussions & Announcements 11 08-05-2009 02:00 PM
Slipping kickstarter Warwick Simpson Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 10 07-11-2008 03:26 PM
Slipping clutch nitroman Enduro Engine 4 stroke (including EFI & Exhaust) 12 06-18-2008 08:14 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org