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Old 07-19-2011, 05:55 AM
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when i drilled holes (18 total holes in my hub now) it fixed sticky plates/kick start in gear issues. i never had a squawky clutch - neither of my baskets have webbing.... the holes just let more fluid pass to keep plates stiction at a minimum. i think the basket is possibly what causes squawking... does anyone have squawky clutch and no web basket? my clutch has never squawked with amsoil 0w-40 or maxima xtl or rotella t for that matter. i like the amsoil because it's got the lowest friction coefficient.


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Looked at a KTM clutch basket and inner hub today. the hub had larger and more holes than my gasser. the fins were machined all the way to the bottom as on the 125 basket pictured.

I have decided to drill the existing holes to make them larger, and to machine the fins as on the pictured assembly. If you look at a picture of a Barnett clutch basket it has the fins opened all the way to the bottom, and additional holes on the solid fins.

PLEASE, someone chime in if you think this is the wrong direction.

p.s. The dealer said my clutch fibers were fine and that the steels were good too. Although, two of the steels had some discoloration but were others wise straight.
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:08 PM
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Well, I guess I'd better jump on the bandwagon and inspect this situation tomorrow. This is a decade old clutch that's never shown any problems, except these which I can fix with a drill and some beer.
She'll be running tomorrow night. Why not use the mighty power of knowledge gained here ?

If I find too few holes, I'll probably match the hole size and evenly distribute the new ones.

How about a hole in the webbing instead of a webectomy?
If Stainless got good results without touching the webbing, I'll go that conservative route.

I can always take more off/out if it isn't enough.

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Old 07-19-2011, 08:35 PM
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How about a hole in the webbing instead of a webectomy?
If Stainless got good results without touching the webbing, I'll go that conservative route.
didn't need to cut webbing, because mine has almost none. looks like the one on the left.




i only drilled holes to help the stiction issue, and try to get more progressive engagement. i can kick bike in any gear now. and the clutch is less jerky. keep in mind my hub only had 6 holes. i added 12 more just like the pic - i think i used 2mm bit - can't remember - it's whatever size the other ones were. i did not enlarge any - just added more.
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I did think of drilling holes in the webbing angled in the direction the basket turns instead of a webectomy.

Even though i have the 18 drilled holes already, they are very small compared to the KTM basket that i looked at for comparison. And there are less of them.
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Old 07-20-2011, 12:03 PM
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Prompted by this thread, I opened her back up this morning and found I don't have the dreaded webbing, but I have zero holes.

The batteries for the camera are charging while I pull this thing off to drill it. Photos to come.

Thanks for the heads up on this one.

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I have this Taiwanese Campbel Hausfield impact gun that would make a better paperwieght. It can't even pop off my clutch basket or a lug nut.
Often, air tools respond well to a cleaning and oil, but this thing was always junk. I'm not sure why I didn't throw it off a cliff years ago.

Maybe I'll pick up a new impact wrench. Life's too short to own crappy tools.

I could see making a special basket holder tool to fasten to 4 clutch spring posts, but that seems a little risky. The posts aren't designed for forces in that direction, methinx.

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zero holes in the hub? did your clutch drag badly?
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zero holes in the hub? did your clutch drag badly?
Yes, yes it did.
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if you're gonna get a decent impact - try the ingersoll rand 231c. indestructible.

i'm betting some holes will fix that problem. i think 2mm(3mm?) - but i can't be sure of that - maybe someone can chime in with size.. the size isn't crucial i would think, just don't go obnoxiously large.
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