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Old 02-26-2014, 04:02 PM
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+1 to everything firffighter detailed in his post; I'm part of this forum and a GG owner thanks to his advice. And I couldn't agree more - my GG200 is easily the best & most fun bike I've ridden.

Clay - don't take my response as a negative, I completely understand the supply and demand situation. The issue I spoke of is when a new customer is considering their options; not a reflection of business practices. Perception is a big deal, which I know you're familiar with from all the stoopid weight discussion from the magazines


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+1 to everything firffighter detailed in his post; I'm part of this forum and a GG owner thanks to his advice. And I couldn't agree more - my GG200 is easily the best & most fun bike I've ridden.

Clay - don't take my response as a negative, I completely understand the supply and demand situation. The issue I spoke of is when a new customer is considering their options; not a reflection of business practices. Perception is a big deal, which I know you're familiar with from all the stoopid weight discussion from the magazines
No problem. I just like explaining decisions I make.
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:18 PM
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No problem. I just like explaining decisions I make.
Cant you get a new 200 brought in for him? Or is that out of the question?
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If some cash fell out of the sky and it had a note attached to it stating " for a brand new dirt bike" I'd be on the phone to Clay trying to figure out how I could get another 200 in California.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:22 PM
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Well on Halls Husqvarna websirw it does say preorder your 2014 gas Gas 200!! Come on Gas Gas is so small and unique and cool I would bet you you put your money out there it may take awhile but a 200 would show up with the other bikes......................... money is money and I would think it would not be to hard for them to make and exception on a preorder.
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Old 02-27-2014, 08:58 AM
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How do you think one motorcycle gets here? If you have a container coming over and you can stick a 200 on it then no problem. Here are some real world numbers: A full container of 46 motorcycles cost about $7600 just to get them to the US. That is $165 per bike. A small container with 22 bikes costs $6000 to ship. That is $273 per bike. One bike costs about $1700 to air freight. Those are the costs TO GET THEM HERE. Then you add up to another $300 to get them to the dealer. I have no plans to bring in any more bikes here in the US. GG may send more over at their expense but I don't want anymore right now. We have had a container of 300s here since late October and we have sold about half! The 300 out sells everything else by about 2 to 1. Am I getting through to you guys yet? Dirt Rider KILLED us on the 2013 models and there are still a lot of them out there. Dealers WILL NOT order 2014s until those '13s are gone. If you called me and offered me full retail for a 200 right now I couldn't get it for you at a profit due to the freight cost.
I'm being very open and honest with you guys on this subject. I'm explaining things that you probably have never thought about. It's not your job to think about it. It is mine though and it is my money tied up in this. It does not make business sense to bring in 200s in 2014.
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How do you think one motorcycle gets here? If you have a container coming over and you can stick a 200 on it then no problem. Here are some real world numbers: A full container of 46 motorcycles cost about $7600 just to get them to the US. That is $165 per bike. A small container with 22 bikes costs $6000 to ship. That is $273 per bike. One bike costs about $1700 to air freight. Those are the costs TO GET THEM HERE. Then you add up to another $300 to get them to the dealer. I have no plans to bring in any more bikes here in the US. GG may send more over at their expense but I don't want anymore right now. We have had a container of 300s here since late October and we have sold about half! The 300 out sells everything else by about 2 to 1. Am I getting through to you guys yet? Dirt Rider KILLED us on the 2013 models and there are still a lot of them out there. Dealers WILL NOT order 2014s until those '13s are gone. If you called me and offered me full retail for a 200 right now I couldn't get it for you at a profit due to the freight cost.
I'm being very open and honest with you guys on this subject. I'm explaining things that you probably have never thought about. It's not your job to think about it. It is mine though and it is my money tied up in this. It does not make business sense to bring in 200s in 2014.

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Old 02-27-2014, 11:54 AM
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I take back everything I said, the 300 is the best bike, especially the 2013 300's go buy one now

On a serious note, I find it interesting that Chilly rode the Gasgas in its element and he absolutely loved it. Anyone whose ridden any form of tight woods riding understand full well why the Gasgas is so stinking good there. But, if you grow up in SoCal and have never ridden in REAL woods then you just don't get it! Go take a look at any European dirtbike media and see what they have to say about the Gasgas. Of course they ride nasty terrain.

Its too bad so many are influenced by crummy media. More Gassers at local events gets the word out. When my brother and I go to events the Gassers get lots of looks and attention. Tons of folks wander over to ask about them. Real reviews by real woods riders does make a difference!

Keep on keeping on Clay! We all support you 100% here!
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I take back everything I said, the 300 is the best bike, especially the 2013 300's go buy one now

On a serious note, I find it interesting that Chilly rode the Gasgas in its element and he absolutely loved it. Anyone whose ridden any form of tight woods riding understand full well why the Gasgas is so stinking good there. But, if you grow up in SoCal and have never ridden in REAL woods then you just don't get it! Go take a look at any European dirtbike media and see what they have to say about the Gasgas. Of course they ride nasty terrain.

Its too bad so many are influenced by crummy media. More Gassers at local events gets the word out. When my brother and I go to events the Gassers get lots of looks and attention. Tons of folks wander over to ask about them. Real reviews by real woods riders does make a difference!

Keep on keeping on Clay! We all support you 100% here!
Tom Webb and the others from Dirt Bike, who are real trail riders gave the 13 300XC a really nice write up last year. Didnt anyone see that? I feel the biggest problem with Gas Gas is money and lack there of! KTM was in exactly the same place as Gas Gas in the 90`s as Gas Gas is now. I had a few friends that had them and we all said the same about KTM as people are saying about Gas Gas now. KTM is a juggernaut now with several different models and the money behind them. I cant even imagine the stress of dealing with a European Company the way Clay has to deal with Gas Gas or even Sherco for that matter. They have a very different way of doing business. I am self employed and have to deal with China and India every now and then and it sucks!! Just keep doing what you are doing and it will turn around. Hell! It better, I own one
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I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall, when you told your wife that you were keeping Gas Gas and also taking on Sherco.
LOL! That eek face is exactly what her face looked like when I told her!
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