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Dunlop 803 troubles keeping it on
I just put a Dunlop 803 trials tire on my 06 EC300 (Newer type dirtstars) but it doesn't want to stay on the bead. When I hit pavement it slips right off with 9 psi in it (happened twice out of about 4 times on short rides). I left it inflated for a couple of days with like 40 psi or something as someone on Thumpertalk suggested, but as soon as I let the air out (took the valve core out thinking it would be easier to just let it all out and refill to 9 psi) the thing slipped off the bead and made a really bright "PING".
I made sure the tire was indeed seated, so I am sure thats not the problem, especially since it made that noise when it came off. Just using windex to help seat, it doesn't seem to leave a residue or anything. Anyone had any troubles like this? I would hate to be in the woods and it start doing this, so far it has just been when I hit the pavement for the last 1/2 mile to the house so no biggie, but sooner or later the weather will break and I will want to get out in the woods! I posted on thumpertalk, but thought it may be something specific with the rims.
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2006 EC300, 2000 XR650R, 2003 EC250, 2001 EC200 (OK, the last two are really my sons). Last edited by kendunn; 01-04-2010 at 11:47 AM. Reason: more info |
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I use windex too and don't think that is causing your problem. I know plwnty of guys that have run the Dunlop trials tire without issue.
The only time I've seen a tire pop off the rim was that the bead was broken during installation.
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I am pretty sure it didn't cut or break the bead on the tire. It went on pretty easy, no effort at all really, maybe too easy, could something maybe have been too loose from the Dunlop factory? When I was a kid I broke the bead on a tire, you know it when you do it!
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2006 EC300, 2000 XR650R, 2003 EC250, 2001 EC200 (OK, the last two are really my sons). |
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Is it a tube type tire? I know Michelin makes both tube and tubeless trials tires, not sure about Bridgestone. I don't know if it would cause your problem though.
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jeff '00 XC250 (mine) LTS front and rear suspension, power valve cover, carb jet kit and rear chain glide, RB Designs head mod, BRP tall triple clamp, backyard foot-peg lowering conversion. '04 EC250 (the kids) (he can do his own mods haha!) |
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I have run both "tube type" and "tubeless type" IRC trials tires on both
my GasGas bikes and a KDX200. I have been using the 803 Trials tire on my 02 EC300 for a couple of years so far and have had no problems with the tire coming off the bead. I think my rims on the 300 are Dirt Stars also. The rear 803 takes 40-60 lbs of pressure to seat the bead, using some water and dish soap as a lube. I'd say you have a problem with either the tire or the rim that is not normal. you might want try another trials tire. Or put that one on another bike and see. Keep us posted if you find the answer to your problem. Jeff |
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The rear 803 takes 40-60 lbs of pressure to seat the bead, using some
water and dish soap as a lube. 60 psi for a day or two. I use wd40 as the the dish soap will get slippery when it gets wet again, like creek crossings. I like trials tires but got tired of the tire moving on the rim with two rim locks under 10 psi. I hate it when a brand new $20 tube rips on the first ride. If you run a higher psi the tire will stay on the rim but the grip is marginal. Trials riders run 3-5 psi with no problem. Good luck.
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