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Old 02-23-2014, 12:46 PM
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Hi, does anyone have an opinion as to which forks are the best?
I have an 09 EC 250 which come with Sachs forks as standard and leave a bit to be desired. Are Kayaba or Marzoochi forks any better and worth upgrading too?Or am I better off sticking to the Sachs forks and getting them revalved etc.

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Old 02-23-2014, 01:49 PM
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In my opinion the marzocchi is much better than the Sachs, but not that good like a ohlins, Showa or kayaba.
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Old 02-23-2014, 02:42 PM
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Hi, does anyone have an opinion as to which forks are the best?
I have an 09 EC 250 which come with Sachs forks as standard and leave a bit to be desired. Are Kayaba or Marzoochi forks any better and worth upgrading too?Or am I better off sticking to the Sachs forks and getting them revalved etc.

Thanks, Tony.
A popular upgrade is a set of KYB'S off a Yamaha. Do a search and you will find a lot of info for the switch. Deals can be found on eBay or craigslist.

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My vote would be for the 48 mm closed chamber marzoochi's. This seems to be the best all around fork I've ever rode with.
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I've got a set of Sachs 48mms on my 2010 with the Ohlins inserts. They blow away the stock fork. Got a set of 48mm CC Zokes on my 2013. Both running different spring rates so hard to judge back to back performance, as well as chasis changes. I guess I could always swap them over for a ride.

The sachs are an OC design, and can be made to work as well as any other. They have some weird shim sizes though which can make it harder for some tuners to source. Not a real great knowledge base on them either, so if you do choose to go the revalve route, go with someone who has knowledge of these forks.
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Would love to know the price for the newer Marzocchi 48mm forks.
What would be a better option Price / Perfomance. Some of the conversions seem to need wheel brake tripple clamp and machining.
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Would love to know the price for the newer Marzocchi 48mm forks.
What would be a better option Price / Perfomance. Some of the conversions seem to need wheel brake tripple clamp and machining.
Comparing conversions to modern CC forks, I would guess that KYBs off an YZF would be the best price/performance if you buy secondhand parts and do the work yourself.
I presume the 48mm Marzocchis are harder to find, hence more expensive.

With the KYBs you have to swap the triple clamps and do something to make the brakes fit, but these parts can be sourced fairly cheaply on ebay or similar.
To make the Gasgas wheel fit the Yamaha axle all you need is an hour in the lathe. Or you could use a Yamaha wheel and brakes.
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Would love to know the price for the newer Marzocchi 48mm forks.

What would be a better option Price / Perfomance. Some of the conversions seem to need wheel brake tripple clamp and machining.

I sold mine lasts year for 500,- euros!
But it is very hard to get these forks. Looks like the most people like them.
My KYB swap cost me about 800,-euros in total incl. new setting.

I saw here in Germany is someone selling a new 48cc zockes for 1050,- euros.
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I purchased my gg s/h, it has Sachs forks. Linton from DAS here in ChCh Nz revalved them with an 8mm shim conversion, he did an excellent job. You can hit wet tree roots at 60 / 45* angles , pop over logs , flat land 6 foot jumps at the MX track and it takes it all , doesn't deflect off the logs either. He gave me a list of the stacks but I lost it lol.
If you find a tuner who knows their stuff the Sachs can be made to work very well imo
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Thanks for the replies, most appreciated.
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