Tubeless Tires ?

[djroggen]

I have ran mousses before, and I have to say the piece of mind that you get while riding is worth it. You just never worry about a flat. I used to ride around rocks for fear of a pinch, not with a mousse just point and gas it. The tires figure it out. The tires with mousses in do feel dead, and you become accustomed to them. I think I still prefer this dead feeling people talk about. Now, I wanted to try out tubes again. Ran Motoz Uber Duty tubes and never had a flat or had to air them up more than once mid season, only to let the air back out. Tubes I think are more meant for motocross than for hardcore enduros. To each their own!

[ACR Tom]

So I bought a new AT-739 and will install it with my dunlap trials tire on the back so my bike is going to be new rubber ready like I have never had before . So will this be an outer limits experience or what ? I will let you know !

[Dirt Dud]

It took a while to get back on this subject but all I can say is WOW these make a BIG difference in traction . As a slow vet rider I need all the help I can get These tubeless rock !

[shang]

I recently went to Tubliss as well and I love it. I was running a soft terrain tire in the back for about a month and it was way to soft for the Tubliss. I carry a plug kit with me but the cool thing is you can just run them flat. Several times I got back to the trail head and found the rear was flat and I didn't even know. I'm sure partly because the tire was so soft it felt flat to me all the time anyway.

As far as bending or flat spotting a rim, I think the rim is safer with the Tubliss running flat than with a tube. This is because the high pressure tube keeps the bead firmly seated with 100+ psi on it keeping it strengthened from the inside, just as it does the rest of the wheel.

I used to ride BMX bikes and it was the same idea with air pressure. The more air, the stronger the wheel.

I think the tires feel much better without the tube against them too. Anyone who has converted from tube to tubeless on their mountain bike can tell you that. At the same exact air pressures the tires are way more compliant.

[FDB]

If you follow the install and maintenance instructions you will have no issues.
Fit them on fresh tires if you can.
Rimlock marks on the inside of old tires cause it to not seal so great.
Also..
I found that if you tape the whole inside of your rim nicecand smooth with ductape, they seal even better.

[djroggen]

Originally Posted by shang

just run them flat. Several times I got back to the trail head and found the rear was flat and I didn't even know.

Several flats?!? Really? Strange!!!

[shang]

I was using a metzeller soft terrain tire, just because it came new with the bike and the terrain here is extremely rocky and sharp. Also, as soon as I didn't have to worry about pinch flats and the tire de-beading, my riding style changed quite a bit. I used to pick my way through the rock gardens, now I just look up the trail to where I want to be and hammer it.

Mostly though, I blame the tire. When I removed it I was surprised to see the cord was loose all around one side. You could put your fingers through it and pull on it. I bet my experience with the new Maxxis Desert IT will be different.

[swazi_matt]

Originally Posted by shang

I was using a metzeller soft terrain tire, just because it came new with the bike and the terrain here is extremely rocky and sharp. Also, as soon as I didn't have to worry about pinch flats and the tire de-beading, my riding style changed quite a bit. I used to pick my way through the rock gardens, now I just look up the trail to where I want to be and hammer it.

Mostly though, I blame the tire. When I removed it I was surprised to see the cord was loose all around one side. You could put your fingers through it and pull on it. I bet my experience with the new Maxxis Desert IT will be different.

we don't get those maxxis here, but i believe you can ride those without having to pump them up at all

[Fred1956]

Originally Posted by djroggen

Several flats?!? Really? Strange!!!

The traction increase that I got with them made a Dunlop MX51 unusable around here, 1 lap around the typical rocky course down here would yield 2-3 knobs ripped from the carcass, like you had clamped vice grips on the knob and twisted it out leaving a hole you could put your thumb in, still finished the race on the flat but never had that issue with tubes in the MX51 so I blamed it on the increased traction and went to stiffer reinforced tires no more knob loss after that

[shang]

That may have been the issue with me as well. I didn't lose any knobs but all the holes I suffered were at the base of the knob. I'm shaking down the new Maxxis tire in Moab later this week so I'll have to report back on how it does.