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Old 11-29-2017, 01:57 PM
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That’s a new one.

https://motocenteraz.com

The web site lists Mesa (east side).

The other Gas Gas dealer is Screwie Lewie?s on the north side by Deer Valley Airport. SL is also a Husky dealer.



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Old 11-29-2017, 04:26 PM
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That?s a new one.

https://motocenteraz.com

The web site lists Mesa (east side).

The other Gas Gas dealer is Screwie Lewie?s on the north side by Deer Balley Airport. SL is also a Husky dealer.
I knew SL was carrying the '17 Gas Gas enduro and trials bikes. I have not been down there to see if they have any of the '18 models in stock. Did not know we had two dealers in town
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Old 11-29-2017, 04:43 PM
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I saw Lewie?s smiling face at the Gas Gas display at last month?s Wnduro Cross at West World in Scottsdale.

If I were in the market for a 2T, a 2018-19 GG would be in the hunt.
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Old 12-07-2017, 04:12 PM
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@coopernicus: thx for the ride report, most appreciated. Coming from KTM, I only rode KTM's till today, I immediately liked the GG 300/18. Unfortunately I couldnt ride on yet, so there are some questions which you may think are weird but are important for a slow old man like me.
First I am interested how much the Gasser's engine vibrates. needless to say that I havent seen anything that comes even close to my 17 Kato 300 which is most likely due to the fact that it has a balancer shaft.
Second thing is how hard or light is the clutch pull? Over here in Europe we're riding slower tracks but technically demanding, so clutch pull can be an issue. A point where KTM really shines.

Last but not least the GG's starter motor is not exactly the ideal solution. I have heard it fails often when in gear. Not sure if thats true as the former Kato starters were exactly the same and at least mine (well serviced) never failed.

Sorry for my bad English.

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Old 12-08-2017, 06:00 PM
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@coopernicus: thx for the ride report, most appreciated. Coming from KTM, I only rode KTM's till today, I immediately liked the GG 300/18. Unfortunately I couldnt ride on yet, so there are some questions which you may think are weird but are important for a slow old man like me.
First I am interested how much the Gasser's engine vibrates. needless to say that I havent seen anything that comes even close to my 17 Kato 300 which is most likely due to the fact that it has a balancer shaft.
Second thing is how hard or light is the clutch pull? Over here in Europe we're riding slower tracks but technically demanding, so clutch pull can be an issue. A point where KTM really shines.

Last but not least the GG's starter motor is not exactly the ideal solution. I have heard it fails often when in gear. Not sure if thats true as the former Kato starters were exactly the same and at least mine (well serviced) never failed.

Sorry for my bad English.

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Hey Doc Brown. Welcome to the Forum!!

It seems like not many have ridden both an '18 Gasser and a balancer shaft Katoom.

I've heard from one person who has, and I've sat on a running balanced Katoom but didn't get a chance to actually ride it.

I know this sounds unlikely and fanboyish. But the lack of engine vibes in the new Gasser motor is unnatural. Its crazy smooth. I'd guess near or equal to the katoom based on my feel. The guy I know who has ridden both agrees with me.
I have no idea how they did it. But its really smooth.

As for the starter I can't say how it is for long term use. But the current reports are that it works perfectly assuming the wires have been fixed if it was a "first batch" bike.
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Old 12-09-2017, 04:47 PM
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On Thursday, Deb and I were returning south to home from a trip up in the Branson, MO area. As we went through Harrison, Arkansas, we took a side trip to GodFather's Powersports to check out the new 2018 EC300 in person.

The bike looks very sanitary, and pretty. (I already knew that from all the photos and ride reports I have seen. But, it looked even better in person.)

The seat height is taller than my 2011, or any of the older model GasGas bikes I have owned. Not too tall, as I could still easily kick a leg over without kicking the rear fender, but over an inch higher than the rear fender of my 2011.
I could still touch the balls of my feet to both sides at the same time. (6' with a 32" inseam)

I didn't get to ride, but it felt narrow sitting on it.
I think it will be easy to slide way up onto the tank in tight woods turns.

My final thoughts are:
I wonder if GasGas will be tempted (by KTM) to bring back the gear driven counterbalancer that was in the '96-'98 250cc Gassers. Those were ultra smooth engines, even above 10K rpms.
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I wish I wasn't so tempted to buy one.


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Old 12-09-2017, 06:29 PM
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Hey Doc Brown. Welcome to the Forum!!

It seems like not many have ridden both an '18 Gasser and a balancer shaft Katoom.

I've heard from one person who has, and I've sat on a running balanced Katoom but didn't get a chance to actually ride it.

I know this sounds unlikely and fanboyish. But the lack of engine vibes in the new Gasser motor is unnatural. Its crazy smooth. I'd guess near or equal to the katoom based on my feel. The guy I know who has ridden both agrees with me.
I have no idea how they did it. But its really smooth.

As for the starter I can't say how it is for long term use. But the current reports are that it works perfectly assuming the wires have been fixed if it was a "first batch" bike.
I own an 18 ec250 and spent as much time as I care to on a 18 TX 300 and in my opinion the GasGas motor is very low on vibration but still not like a KTM/Husky motor. But the GasGas is a much better bike overall out of the box.
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