Good place to get springs from?

[12Bravo]

I am looking to re-spring the rear end since I have the bike running ok'ish. Need to do some jetting work, but want to start setting it up suspension for my big butt.

Where is a good place to order heavy springs for the Ohlin shocks?

As far as the fronts go, I think I have the 50mm front. I can't find anywhere on them to ID make or model that they are. But I am sure I need a re-spring in them also.

Thanks

[Rod Overstreet]

Originally Posted by 12Bravo

I am looking to re-spring the rear end since I have the bike running ok'ish. Need to do some jetting work, but want to start setting it up suspension for my big butt.

Where is a good place to order heavy springs for the Ohlin shocks?

As far as the fronts go, I think I have the 50mm front. I can't find anywhere on them to ID make or model that they are. But I am sure I need a re-spring in them also.

Thanks

Richard at House of Horsepower or Les at LT Racing.

[slocalspode]

Originally Posted by 12Bravo

I am looking to re-spring the rear end since I have the bike running ok'ish. Need to do some jetting work, but want to start setting it up suspension for my big butt.

Where is a good place to order heavy springs for the Ohlin shocks?

As far as the fronts go, I think I have the 50mm front. I can't find anywhere on them to ID make or model that they are. But I am sure I need a re-spring in them also.

Thanks

50mm Marzocchi Magnum forks on a '99 200? Hmmm. Does your bike
have a 6 speed gear box, or a 4 speed? The early MC GasGas bikes used
the 4 speed trans and that might be the reason your bike is so snappy.
It might be the MX model as opposed to the EC and XC enduro models.
If Jim Cook is still lurking around here, he can add info to the differences
between the MC and EC/XC models. There might be a CDI difference too.
My '98 GG250 started life as an MC. Someone removed the counter balancer and added the 6 speed trans before I bought it. I have the 50mm
forks but a friends '99 EC250 has the 45mm forks. I ended up having the
counter balancer reinstalled and it runs so much better.
Best of luck on your new toy.
Cheers, JJ

[12Bravo]

Originally Posted by slocalspode

50mm Marzocchi Magnum forks on a '99 200? Hmmm. Does your bike
have a 6 speed gear box, or a 4 speed? The early MC GasGas bikes used
the 4 speed trans and that might be the reason your bike is so snappy.
It might be the MX model as opposed to the EC and XC enduro models.
If Jim Cook is still lurking around here, he can add info to the differences
between the MC and EC/XC models. There might be a CDI difference too.
My '98 GG250 started life as an MC. Someone removed the counter balancer and added the 6 speed trans before I bought it. I have the 50mm
forks but a friends '99 EC250 has the 45mm forks. I ended up having the
counter balancer reinstalled and it runs so much better.
Best of luck on your new toy.
Cheers, JJ

I have 6 gears, have not be able to ride anywhere long enough to get out of 3rd gear. But I just shifted it sitting still, I have 6 gears.

How can I tell if it is counter balanced?

[slocalspode]

Originally Posted by 12Bravo

I have 6 gears, have not be able to ride anywhere long enough to get out of 3rd gear. But I just shifted it sitting still, I have 6 gears.

How can I tell if it is counter balanced?

I think you will have to take off the right hand side engine / clutch cover off.


It is attached to the larger gear behind the clutch basket and that plastic
gear in the above picture. I took this picture to show that timing marks
were not aligned properly when I got my motor back from the shop that
installed the balancer.

Another view:


You might also be able to see that balancer from the left hand side of the
engine cover. To the upper right of the stator.



You should know if the balancer is installed if your bike idles smoother
than any other 2-stroke you've ridden. It is almost freeky how it runs.
Cheers, JJ

[12Bravo]

Originally Posted by slocalspode

I think you will have to take off the right hand side engine / clutch cover off.


It is attached to the larger gear behind the clutch basket and that plastic
gear in the above picture. I took this picture to show that timing marks
were not aligned properly when I got my motor back from the shop that
installed the balancer.

Another view:


You might also be able to see that balancer from the left hand side of the
engine cover. To the upper right of the stator.



You should know if the balancer is installed if your bike idles smoother
than any other 2-stroke you've ridden. It is almost freeky how it runs.
Cheers, JJ

Nice information, I will have to look when I take the motor apart at some point in time. I don't have any gaskets and would hate to take the covers off and rip a gasket, then what....lol

As far as riding another 2 stroke, I have not done that in over 15 years! To much beer since then, memory is good, just short!

[RBrider]

Originally Posted by 12Bravo

I am looking to re-spring the rear end since I have the bike running ok'ish. Need to do some jetting work, but want to start setting it up suspension for my big butt.

Where is a good place to order heavy springs for the Ohlin shocks?

As far as the fronts go, I think I have the 50mm front. I can't find anywhere on them to ID make or model that they are. But I am sure I need a re-spring in them also.

Thanks

Ohlins USA is located down the road (I 26) from you in Hendersonville NC.
They'll sell you a spring and install it on your shock, too. They can probably tell you which spring you need as well.

I had them do a BMW shock spring for me a yr or so ago. The service manager was an old dirt bike guy & very knowledgable.

I'll bet they can fix you right up. But first, I'd try setting the sag, with you on the bike, at about 4 in, or 100 mm. It might be fine (or, OK) for you at this stage of your dirt bike experience.

RB

[slocalspode]

The left side engine cover does not seal oil. It should be possible to remove it
without ripping the gasket....?
In the bottom picture, this is from my 2001 EC300. It DOES NOT have a balancer.
Sorry, I don't have a picture of the EC250 from this side. I took this when I was
changing the stator from the 2K2 to a 2K3.

Back to springs. Do you know what spring rate you need? Also do you know what
is presently installed? You might have some luck asking the folks here if they have
and old one they would sell you.... or trade?
Cheers, JJ

[12Bravo]

Originally Posted by slocalspode

The left side engine cover does not seal oil. It should be possible to remove it
without ripping the gasket....?
In the bottom picture, this is from my 2001 EC300. It DOES NOT have a balancer.
Sorry, I don't have a picture of the EC250 from this side. I took this when I was
changing the stator from the 2K2 to a 2K3.

Back to springs. Do you know what spring rate you need? Also do you know what
is presently installed? You might have some luck asking the folks here if they have
and old one they would sell you.... or trade?
Cheers, JJ

Without saying just how fat I am, I need a HEAVY spring....lol The one on the bike, will not adjust to the proper sag for me, I tried. I would be pre-loading way to much. Right now I don't ride fast, but will in the future before I buy a newer bike, so I would like to set this up as close to right as I can.

When I looked online, and I am learning this also as I go. I need a spring rate in the area of 7.5-9 or so....So yea, I'm a big guy...haha

Looking at the front forks, was reading something in the 48 range is needed.

I really need to have a shop do it, but can't afford the big money they charge to spring and valve and damper and what ever else they do, learning still...

[slocalspode]

Originally Posted by 12Bravo

Without saying just how fat I am, I need a HEAVY spring....lol The one on the bike, will not adjust to the proper sag for me, I tried. I would be pre-loading way to much. Right now I don't ride fast, but will in the future before I buy a newer bike, so I would like to set this up as close to right as I can.

When I looked online, and I am learning this also as I go. I need a spring rate in the area of 7.5-9 or so....So yea, I'm a big guy...haha

Looking at the front forks, was reading something in the 48 range is needed.

I really need to have a shop do it, but can't afford the big money they charge to spring and valve and damper and what ever else they do, learning still...

Yikes! 7.5-7.9! I think the heaviest spring I've heard of for the Ohlins rear
shock was 5.6kg - 5.9kg
I am ~210-215lbs with gear on. #30 more with water and tools in a camelback. I believe I am running a 5.4kg on my '02 300 and 5.2 on the
'98 EC250SM....? Maybe the other way around..
There has to be folks on here with more / better info than I.