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Old 08-04-2018, 12:18 AM
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Seat Concepts has a 1" lower seat available. I put one on my '18.
I saw that.

Rather than paying $200 for a new seat, what would be the problem with slicing the foam on the OEM seat and re-stapling the cover?

Is the plastic on the Seat Concepts lower with the same amount of foam as OEM?


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Old 08-04-2018, 06:30 AM
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The Seat Concepts is just the seat foam and cover, no base.

I guess you could cut the OEM seat foam.
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Old 08-04-2018, 10:05 AM
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Brave decision to go kick start free on the ranger. Remember the angry welshman with the freeride

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KStI48Kn1LE
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Old 08-04-2018, 05:41 PM
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I had a Sherco for 4 years without a kickstart, no issue. Folks need to let go of their security blanket.
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Old 08-04-2018, 05:47 PM
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I saw that.

Rather than paying $200 for a new seat, what would be the problem with slicing the foam on the OEM seat and re-stapling the cover?

Is the plastic on the Seat Concepts lower with the same amount of foam as OEM?
I cut me seat foam down. I always use an electric carving knife. Easy as pie
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Old 08-05-2018, 09:08 AM
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I had a Sherco for 4 years without a kickstart, no issue. Folks need to let go of their security blanket.
That's all well and good until the e-start doesn't work. I've seen it happen to several friends with electric start only KTM's.
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Old 08-05-2018, 12:37 PM
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I had a Sherco for 4 years without a kickstart, no issue. Folks need to let go of their security blanket.
I saw 2 non-kicker bikes have their day ended at our local enduro yesterday because they're e-starts failed. One Sherco, and one Beta.

My normal riding partner had his e-start fail on his Beta, but his is an older one that still has the kicker, so it didn't end his day.

The problem isn't that e-starts aren't reliable; they generally are very reliable, especially in the cases of Betas and Shercos. The problem is not only the consequences of if it fails (which can be fairly high), but also that the whole situation could easily be remedied by not taking the kick start off in the first place.

Manufacturers that take the kickstart off are being cheap, plain and simple.
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:30 PM
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They're still better than a black one!
Or any orange ones!
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:48 PM
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I can see the No-Estart thing as a price point decision for a trail bike where you can either start it by bumpstarting or using a friends rear wheel, but my race bike had better have a kickstarter on it. I would have been totally burnt at one enduro this year when the electrical connector separated on my GasGas, which was my fault, but I didn?t have 15 minutes to troubleshoot in the bush in the middle of a race. Kickstarter to the rescue and I finished with an acceptable position.
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Old 08-06-2018, 02:57 AM
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Or any orange ones!
I concur!
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