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Enduro Suspension Tuning & maintenance of Enduro forks, shocks, etc |
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Marzocchi 45 shim advice?
Hi everyone. I've reslrung my bike for my weight 95kg (0.47x5.7) and love the feel of the springs, but the damping still feels harsh at the top of the stroke on small bumps, and rebound adjustment seems non existent. The bike had heavier springs in when I got it but I'm still not sure if it was revolved.
Can anyone recommend me a shim stack for plush over small rocks etc, but man enough to tale big hits (jumps).?? Thanks!
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2006 EC300 Enduro - Ignitech CDI - 38/NECW#2/165 FMF gnarly, FMF shorty, .50 front 5.7 rear 2016 RM-Z450 |
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If you take the time to pull the forks down and record whats in there now I'm sure we'll be able to provide a few suggestions.
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I'm thinking it would be safe to assume I have whatever is standard for the 06' ec300, as I have the same complaints of not much rebound damping and harshness over small bumps... maybe? lol
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2006 EC300 Enduro - Ignitech CDI - 38/NECW#2/165 FMF gnarly, FMF shorty, .50 front 5.7 rear 2016 RM-Z450 |
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I have no idea what the stock stacks are. Would be interested in seeing them though.
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http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/771...se-this-combo/ this thread has some information on standard.
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2006 EC300 Enduro - Ignitech CDI - 38/NECW#2/165 FMF gnarly, FMF shorty, .50 front 5.7 rear 2016 RM-Z450 |
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I have a 2011. I don't have shim info but I had the exact same harshness with my bike when it was new. I had mine valved with added SKF seals by WER here in the US. HUGE Difference! They are awesome now, no harshness at all. Its the best money I have ever spent. I've been riding the bike for the last three seasons without any changes.
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Need to know the mid valve setup including float.
Those stacks on TT are a pretty drastic change with a load of free bleed. |
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Im looking at possible valving issues too, Ive fitted heavier springs again (the ones from this OP) and still have a very soft first half of the compression and a no real rebound control at all, its the weirdest thing. It feels as if its spring only till midstroke when pushing it down and then it rebounds fast, riding it now does feel better but you get the feeling your low in the stroke to start with and the front tucks under often. Did some flat landings off a 2metre drop and it didn't bottom out ? I had about 15mm of travel left in stroke, so Im guessing oil level is good.
Ive got about 30mm of spring preload to be able to fit cap, and bike sags around 35mm under its own weight (forks) Im going to try thicker oil first as this may slow travel down a touch, anyone tested oil weights in these shivers ? I have spent years racing mx so Im still getting the feel for an endure bike, are they set up this soft/plush or should they be near mx settings, as it could be me looking for what Im used too ? |
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Sounds like too much free bleed. Same advice as before though. Tear em down, confirm the stack, consider some changes to address described issues, order some shims, and then evaluate. Probably do that again to fine tune.
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Today Ive been told that the shivers should have 10 or 7.5wt fork oil ?
Can anyone confirm this, as Ive been using 5wt |
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