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Enduro Engine - 2 stroke Cylinder, Piston, Tranny, Bearings, Clutch, Pipes & Silencers, etc. |
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Don't buy into the marketing hype and piss $$ away on MC trans oil. The diesel stuff is very good and will get blackened with spooge oil from the PV long before its broken down. I had my primary cover off this spring, clutch basket is like new and plates well within spec @ 200 hrs. Same with all my previous motors I've had apart. At $13/gal., its four times cheaper than some of the MC stuff that is no better. $$ better spent on tires.
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don't really have any probs,unless slighty sticky clutch. gearbox is smooth enough,i guess. maybe i'll give the cheaper diesel oil a try and spend ?? on tires as GMP states |
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My 2011 300 came with red ATF fluid. I switched to the Rotella Synthetic and it works great!
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I will add that I don't race or even abuse my clutch very much. If you do abuse your clutch the synthetic might be worth the extra. Rotella also makes a synthetic blend. Cheapest thing to do is start at the bottom (dino Rotella) and work your way up till you find the cheapest one that works the way you want it to. |
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It's very interesting all this, I've been using motul 7100 changing about every ten hrs, the clutch just started squawking at 53hrs when loaded at low revs with a bit of clutch abuse, a mate who has a 300 kato said his did this with the ester oils and he did some research on DBW and now uses delo400 (similar diesel oil to rotella) at 100 bucks Aussie for 20 liters and it is perfect. Changes it when he feels a change in the box, eg harder to find neutral which is usually way past 10hrs.
Another bloke round here uses Bp 20w50 deisel "farm" oil in his rmz450 changed every approx 5hrs or race and it's still going at 200 hrs no other maintenance beyond new filter when he can be bothered. NONE. It's 80 bucks per 20 liters and goes in everything on his farm. I'm thinking maybe in the tranny GMP is correct as usual and save the money. I think I'm going to go this way. Also the Aussie distributor has allegedly never sold a transmission part, apparently about the toughest one out there. This bike continues to amaze.
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I don't mean to start an oil discussion because oil and mixture % is like religion but I always try to use the adequate oil for the tranny. This does not mean that if not having it around I would not use Rotella or any other but it's just my perspective. I change the tranny oil every 500Kms until it totals 1500kms. After that I change it every 1500Kms or 1 year. It still comes out almost like new, I spend 12? on each oil change. I have ride mates that do it every 2 years or more...They have an even smaller carbon footprint than me
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I use GM Auto Trac II. Very nice in a clutch.
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Motul 300V is a ester synthetic good for very high temps, I used it in my air cooled Ducati Hypermotard (dry clutch) in summer. Its formulated to run hot, as ester absorbs moisture from the air at a high rate and that will not be driven off otherwise. It is totally unnecessary and undesirable in a two stroke trans, which basically runs cold compared to a four stroke. Your not even close to a good diesel oil's limitations. Try a couple different weight oils until you find what your bike likes. Like gasser said, I had some that liked the lighter synthetic, and others like the one I have now thats a one kick in gear starter with the 15W-40W. ATF is OK in a lot of bikes, with good clutch action, but on the light side that made shifting a bit notchy in mine.
This is my clutch basket @ 200hrs. |
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That photo just convinced me, it looks like you don't even use the clutch. Wow.
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