What is your favorite GasGas engine size?

[stvbird]

My last two stroke was a KTM 300. I loved that thing and thought the torque was magic. Then I got a KTM 525XCW (sill have it) which is awesome anywhere you can go really fast, but I missed the snap of weight of a two stroke in the woods so recently got a EC250 for a woods bike. I thought I wanted another 300, but to tell you the truth, I think I like the lack of bottom end better. I feel like it's a good compromise between a 200 and 300 because it's got plenty of go-fast power but the soft bottom end (compared to a 300) keeps me fresh longer and I don't get arm pump quite as much. I guess it's a case of less is more, or the porrige is not to hot or not too cold but is just right, something like that.

[AZRickD]

Originally Posted by GMP

Rick,

Too bad they don't make the Pro model for the GG. Perhaps it would be worth a call to Rekluse, to see if the Pro basket for a Honda could be adapted to the GG gear.

Or, there is EMF on a GG300...

From 2004 --

http://www.woodsracer.com/portal/for...oto=nextnewest

just test rode a Gas Gas EC300 with a EMF Clutch installed at the LTR Enduro at Forest Hill, Louisiana. The bike belonged to Jack Schidmier of Semmens, Alabama. The clutch works great. It's almost like cheating. You can forget about grabbing the clutch lever. I rode 60 miles and never went so fast in the woods. We are planning on buying two 300s and installing the EMF on both.

I already e-mailed them and they still do GG.

http://www.efmautoclutch.com/dirt.shtml

[GMP]

Besides the ability to eaisly go back to a standard clutch, the Rekluse has a distinct advantage in that there is limited lockup torque, just like a standard clutch. Youngworth is a sharp guy. The EFM locks up harder with RPM, with no limit, and can be a potential problem if your not carefull on the asphalt or hard high traction terrain. Broken gears have been associated with this, on all bikes.

[The Ned]

Go the mighty 300

[Mikael]

Hi guys ,

Ive ridden / owned several 2-stroke enduro bikes in last 20 years . Mainly 250 2 strokes , Japs & Euros . Original enduros & cross bikes to work in enduro/woods . My last 3 bikes has been GGs ( 300 & 200 ECs ). The latest 200 -06 seems to be the best bike I owned ( so far ) . With correct carb re-tuning ( jetting ) added with PW - cover & splitstream its engine becomes something else what it is with factory settings , way more torque with clean running from down to top . 200cc is light , fast and easy to ride because of its more usable powercurve . Just re-sprung it for your weight and revalve the fork & shock how you want it to behave and the package is ready for race or hobby riding.

[Jim Cook]

The 250 is easier to ride aggressively in the tight woods. The extra torque of the 300 makes traction more "touchy" while hard on the gas at lower rpms, expecially in rocky off-camber turns.

OMT: While the Rekluse is great in most situations, I can go faster in the tight single track, and climb hills better with the absolute clutch control that the lever gives me. The stock clutch lets me moderate power to the ground by using the clutch.

I did R&D work for Rekluse with my 2006 DE300 for 2.5 years. I liked the auto clutch a lot. Wheelie turns on 2' wide trail were a snap. When working trail, not having to deal with the clutch while stopping to staple an arrow to a tree, was a definite plus.

However, using a trials tire in the rugged Ouachita and Ozark Mountains in Arkansas, I had to drop my gearing to 12/48 (13/52) to be able to climb as well as I could with the stock clutch and 13/49 gearing. (I could climb hills better with Joshua's 250 with manual clutch, than I could with my 300.)

This would manifest itself the most when I had to stop in the middle of a steep hill climb, due to a mistake of mine, or of someone just ahead of me. With the 13/49 gearing that I like so well, and the absolute traction of a trials tire, the engagement of the Rekluse would result in an instant wheelie; not a good thing when one is already on a 45 degree angle.
I found that I could remedy this by dropping the gearing so that the forward speed at the time of the Rekluse's engagement would allow me to "crawl" up the mountain, keeping the front wheel on the ground.

I am now back to the original GasGas clutch set-up. I'm enjoying the extra control and flexibility of the manual clutch. (I'm also enjoying the ability to bump start the bike when taking off downhill.) High speed 180 degree turns (in tight terrain) are made faster and easier with a little fanning of the clutch.

The Rekluse and a trials rear tire are the ultimate set-up for "go anywhere" riding. You will get forward traction with little or no fuss.
However, for me in most conditions, it is faster and more fun with a manual clutch and a knobby tire.

Currently, I am preparing the parts to put a 250 top end on my 300. It's not a permanent thing, but just something I want to do for a while.

Good Riding and Best Regards!

Jim

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[GMP]

The 250 is a great do it all bike. Enough power to climb the monster hills up in Hancock and not too much for the tight woods in NJ. I can have only one bike so the 250 is it.

IMO, the trials tire is worth more in the hellish rocks than the auto clutch.

[SpeedyManiac]

Originally Posted by GMP

The 250 is a great do it all bike. Enough power to climb the monster hills up in Hancock and not too much for the tight woods in NJ. I can have only one bike so the 250 is it.

IMO, the trials tire is worth more in the hellish rocks than the auto clutch.

+1, though the auto clutch is really, really handy. I'm going to put 10-15 tungsten balls in to get it to lock up harder and then it should be near perfect (perfect once I get a Rekluse Pro).

[Jim Cook]

Originally Posted by SpeedyManiac

+1, though the auto clutch is really, really handy. I'm going to put 10-15 tungsten balls in to get it to lock up harder and then it should be near perfect (perfect once I get a Rekluse Pro).

Yep. First, try 10 tungsten balls with 20 steel balls, before you go with 13 or more tungsten balls. Ten was the ideal set-up I worked out with my 300, before I was happy with the Rekluse.

Ten tungsten balls will give you full clutch lockup pressure at the low rpms that the GasGas 300 engine really starts producing it's considerable torque.
That set-up will also let it work compatibly with the "no-slip" forward traction of the trials tire.

Good Riding!

Jim

[steve]

300 the best overall motor!!!!!!!!