Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > GasGas Enduro Technical Forums > Enduro Suspension

Enduro Suspension Tuning & maintenance of Enduro forks, shocks, etc


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 02-25-2007, 03:50 AM
peterr peterr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: sunshine coast
Posts: 15
Unhappy Ride report 07 sachs

Bikes
ec300 sachs rear
ec 300 Ohlins rear
ec200 Ohlins rear
2 x KTM 525 06
DR350 - that just wont die


we all went for a decent trail ride on sat, But i thought before that ill try out the revalving on the rear shock Hmm much better But still really Hard We checked the race sag from the 5.2 Kg spring - im 85kg with out riding gear - 89 mm Max, 11mm spring compression which in my book meens its to hard for me, But ill ride it and see if it frees up.

Hmm didnt free up riding over small jumps, lets go for a ride anyway Shane and i swapped bikes ( ec300 ohlins ) wow i could not belive it how good the ride was, shane stopped beside me and said i thought you were just bitchin obout the rear end now i beleive you I want My bike Back! - Shane weighs about 90kg so ithought he would be ok on it.

As a side note i Checked the entire linkage system before reassembly and Found NO grease on the O rings But found Plenty of grease in the bearings this had the affect of limiting the action on the linkage it would hang in mid air . I placed a feeler guage between the washer and the linkage and found min .88 mm clearance - I fitted a .84 fibre washer which was nearly the same size as the steel washer.

You can find out what happend to the gearbox in the 2 stroke engine section.

Not Happy JAN


Reply With Quote


  #22  
Old 02-25-2007, 06:58 PM
TripleThreatMotorsports TripleThreatMotorsports is offline
Site Sponsor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mtn Grove, MO
Posts: 17
Default

all the bikes come with marzocchi forks and either a sachs rear or ohlins rear. the price is about 300 bucks and shocks are about the same its the setup that makes or breaks the shocks, having them setup for the rider is a must and will make them perform to your needs.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-26-2007, 06:14 AM
Sandman Sandman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 38
Default

I contacted Gas Gas Spain and it looks like the importer is correct.
From February 2007 the Ohlin option has stoped. Gas Gas sent out bikes with
Ohlins rear as they did not have the Sachs in the 1st lot of bike made.

After riding the 07 bikes why bother with the Ohlin all I can see is that the
07 bikes have a firmer seat the rear shock was fine and as far as the O-rings
binding I dont think so.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-26-2007, 06:40 PM
TripleThreatMotorsports TripleThreatMotorsports is offline
Site Sponsor
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mtn Grove, MO
Posts: 17
Default

my rep has prices for the sach and ohlins model and I can still get the ohlins shocked bike as of last week I have not heared any different
__________________
Triple Threat Motorsports
For all your Gas-Gas, Husaberg, Kymco and Husqvarna outdoor equipment needs.

2003 Atk 450 Xc Quad
Ported,Stroked, and ready for action, Ohlins suspenders, protected by Prm, TTM, Hiper Technology, Cycra, Streamline, Kenda Usa, Regina Chains, Amsoil, Motortabs, Rb Components, Pro Taper, Ac racing, Dirt works Motorsports.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 02-26-2007, 08:05 PM
Sandman Sandman is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 38
Default

If your distributor still have Ohlins bikes in stock they will be able to supply
but Gas Gas in Spain has no more other than the R model and a lot of the
07 bikes that did get sent out with the Ohlins did not have the High and Low speed adjustment like the 06 bikes not all of them but most of them did not have it.It is like the 1st sipment of FSR450 that got sent down under they all had Ohlins because the Sachs was not ready and this could of been the case in the U.S
I did not get this from a sales person I got this from Gas Gas Spain they should know.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 02-27-2007, 07:23 AM
GMP's Avatar
GMP GMP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jefferson Twp., NJ
Posts: 7,597
Default

I've seen the '07 Ohlins. Its not the same as the previous Ohlins, appears to be different. Aluminum body, no HS adjuster, rebound clicker screw not thumbwheel.

Get the Sachs, your not missing anything.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 02-27-2007, 08:34 PM
MattR's Avatar
MattR MattR is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Temperance, MI
Posts: 958
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by peterr View Post
Found NO grease on the O rings But found Plenty of grease in the bearings this had the affect of limiting the action on the linkage it would hang in mid air .
Other than using a bit of grease to help installation of Orings, it is not required and can cause more issues like attracting dirt. Then, you have a grinding compound working against your seals. Also, I highly doubt your dry Orings created that much friction to prevent rear wheel travel. Perhaps a shim was clamped to the face of the bearing journal rather than around its outside diameter. This would cause binding.

As far as bearings goes, congrats to GG or your dealer for properly greasing the bearings. Typically, they treat the grease in bearings like gold and there is very little. Looks like you were setup good.
__________________
Matt
Current: 2009 Yamaha FZ1
Previous: 2001 GasGas TXT280, 2001 GasGas XC250, 2004 KTM 200EXC, 2007 GasGas EC250, 2007 Husqvarna SM610, 2008 Husqvarna WB165
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 03-06-2007, 08:51 AM
42GEORGE 42GEORGE is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: orange county, ny
Posts: 60
Talking The New Sachs Is Better Than The "new" Ohlins Anyway

The Ohlins Rear Shock That Comes On The 07 Models Is Junk Compared To The Previos Models & The Sachs Unit. It Now Has An Aluminum Shock Body, The Compression Adjuster Has No Clicker In It, And The Rebound Adjuster Is Just A Screw Now, Not The Big Knob Like They Used To Have. So Be Thankful You Go The Sachs. 42 George
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 03-26-2007, 06:03 AM
peterr peterr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: sunshine coast
Posts: 15
Smile still cant get the sachs right

I met a bloke on a 07 300ec on the weekend with the same sachs shock with the same problems as me, to hard, nice to know its just not me, and yes i found out the ohlins that did make it onto the 07 models were not the same as 06.

I did 120klms on sat then 60 klms on sunday and still cant get it right, but i did find if i never sat down and avoided "every" bump it wasnt to bad.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 03-28-2007, 12:10 PM
pobit's Avatar
pobit pobit is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Paul Minnesota
Posts: 64
Default

Could the problem your having be caused by the spring being too stiff? I am running a 5.0 on the back of my 06 DE300 for my 180 pounds. The bike came with a 5.4. I ride A class. We also have a 5.0 on the back of my sons 06 DE250. he weighs 170 pounds and races AA. Both bikes have the ohlins shock. Dave
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How to find the GasGas manuals... MattR General Discussions & Announcements 60 10-11-2022 09:20 AM
where can i find a cheap set of handguards? dank Enduro Product Reviews 5 03-01-2010 02:03 PM
I'm back, now find me a bike! Bandit9 General Discussions & Announcements 19 12-09-2009 11:19 AM
Disturbing find.....! bukwheat Enduro Suspension 15 03-17-2009 09:54 AM
Any dealers here who can find me a.... Xman218 General Discussions & Announcements 5 04-02-2008 08:38 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org