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Old 11-01-2013, 09:04 AM
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Default Enduro Cross: Why so interested???

I just don't get the fascination with Enduro X. It is boring as hell to watch. It isn't even remotely close to an Enduro. (Neither is NEPG, but that is another topic) A 65 year old man on a TTR 125 could clean all the obstacles. There is no speed, everyone is doing 15 mph.

What is the big deal to the fan? I know why the industry likes it, I just can't ever see myself plunking down $50 or whatever it is or traveling any distance to go and watch it. I don't even watch it on TV.

What is so exciting about it?

Also why does every promoter out there think it is necessary to ruin a Hare Scramble or Enduro by putting artificial obstacles on the course? Tractor tires? Telephone poles? WTF is happening?


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Old 11-01-2013, 09:23 AM
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I would have to totally disagree with you. If you are into competition it doesn't get any more intense than endurocross. I would way rather watch a endurocross than I would a supercross. The pro riders just amaze me at the things they can do on a bike.
Speaking of endurocross, we will be having our annual race Jan 4th, 2014 in Rapid City,SD.. For more info you can go to mx4fun.com.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:31 AM
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I'm as competitive as it comes. I'll death match you over Checkers. SX is boring as well.

Maybe to the people and kids who don't race or who don't ride at all I could possibly understand it.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:50 AM
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Cricket, Golf, Football, Tennis... Isn't it all the same.. All fun to play, but none all that spectacular to watch, but without a doubt they all pull a crowd.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:58 AM
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I'm as competitive as it comes. I'll death match you over Checkers. SX is boring as well.
Maybe to the people and kids who don't race or who don't ride at all I could possibly understand it.
To me the problem with Enduro or harescrambles is that it isn't spectator friendly, people have to wander waaay out on the course to see the gnarly stuff. They don't charge spectators at enduros......
Enter EnduroX which puts all the gnarly in an 'easy' to see atmosphere. Even Supercross doesn't relate to the spectator unless they've ever walked a pro track, those guys are doing some serious stuff out there, but anyone can relate to a big pile of rocks, telephone poles, etc.
I think it's all about the entertainment value, any thing that gets a guy/kid off the couch to go watch and then gets them interested in a motorcycle is good for the industry.
If you tell a 'non believer' "I ride enduro" and they've seen enduroX then they think they understand

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Old 11-01-2013, 10:20 AM
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I don't know, I watch the same guys in a regular outdoor extreme enduro or regular race and it is interesting. Scale down everything and put it inside a building, and it last 15 mins, not so interesting....

I'll admit that my personality leads me to be a participant and not a spectator. However, I went to Last Man Standing and thought it was pretty spectacular the way they climbed Joshua Tree and Triple Threat etc....you know, like real obstacles.

So far, I'm not so impressed by EX with jumping over a log or two or riding over a few rocks for a few laps.

I would just chalk it up to I'm just getting old I guess, but I'm only 40 and have thought that EX sort of blows since it came out years ago.

It's just me, I'm sure everyone who attends will have a good time and that is what really is important.
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Have you tried riding any endurocross obstacles? My local riding spot has a novice endurocross course. Once you try it yourself you can appreciate the skill required to navigate the obstacles at speed. And yes, it's good for promoters because it's easier to sell seating in a stadium than on a natural course.
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Have you tried riding any endurocross obstacles? My local riding spot has a novice endurocross course. Once you try it yourself you can appreciate the skill required to navigate the obstacles at speed. And yes, it's good for promoters because it's easier to sell seating in a stadium than on a natural course.
I've run about 150 enduros and hare scrambles. I believe I've jumped a few logs and seen a few rocks.
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I like watching enduroX, but the best trail in our hare scrambles series is inevitably the EX bypass. It sucks too when you can blow a lap's worth of energy just to get over the artificial stuff.

We see lots of rocks and logs in the woods, and that's why I go there.

Having said that, I'll see you in Vegas!
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