Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum  

Go Back   Rieju & GasGas Legacy Riders Club Forum > GasGas Enduro Technical Forums > Enduro Engine - 2 stroke

Enduro Engine - 2 stroke Cylinder, Piston, Tranny, Bearings, Clutch, Pipes & Silencers, etc.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 01-19-2013, 03:08 PM
mswilkes mswilkes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Mountains of North Georgia
Posts: 35
Default the problem

The upper ring broke and wrapped around the head of the piston, causing grooving into the cylinder. Everything looked good every where else.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMAG0117.jpg (92.2 KB, 23 views)


Reply With Quote


  #52  
Old 01-21-2013, 07:34 AM
mswilkes mswilkes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Mountains of North Georgia
Posts: 35
Default One more questions

Is it odd to have 8 to 12 ounces of oil pour out of your pipe when you remove it. After disassembling the bike to rebuild the engine, i was cleaning parts and when i got to the pipe a good 8 to 12 ounces of oil had been sitting in the bend of the pipe for who knows how long.
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 01-21-2013, 08:01 AM
GMP's Avatar
GMP GMP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Jefferson Twp., NJ
Posts: 7,601
Default

Wow. It is what it is obviously, but that was a strange set of circumstances. Running one minute and then not restarting.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:30 AM
mswilkes mswilkes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Mountains of North Georgia
Posts: 35
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMP View Post
Wow. It is what it is obviously, but that was a strange set of circumstances. Running one minute and then not restarting.
You said it. It does not make sense unless it happened on the short ride and had enough to keep running but no restart.

The bright side of it is i am now rebuilding the entire bike. Is an 03 so it wont hurt to do the whole thing. I have decided to upgrade some parts as well. I love tax season. I am definitely going to upgrade the stock crappy magura hydraulic master cylinder clutch, mine operated as hard as a cable clutch.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:10 AM
pscook's Avatar
pscook pscook is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 1,164
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mswilkes View Post
Is it odd to have 8 to 12 ounces of oil pour out of your pipe when you remove it. After disassembling the bike to rebuild the engine, i was cleaning parts and when i got to the pipe a good 8 to 12 ounces of oil had been sitting in the bend of the pipe for who knows how long.
In my experience, the oil is left over from previous starting attempts that resulted in a flooded condition. As the oil doesn't burn, it just gets pumped through the engine until it reaches the lowest point of the system, usually the expansion chamber. The oil also prevents the engine from starting or running, as it effectively plugs up the system. Similar to stuffing a rag in the silencer.

So, yes, that is odd.
__________________
Phil
(New bike pending...)
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 01-21-2013, 01:12 PM
mswilkes mswilkes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Mountains of North Georgia
Posts: 35
Default Thanks

Quote:
Originally Posted by pscook View Post
In my experience, the oil is left over from previous starting attempts that resulted in a flooded condition. As the oil doesn't burn, it just gets pumped through the engine until it reaches the lowest point of the system, usually the expansion chamber. The oil also prevents the engine from starting or running, as it effectively plugs up the system. Similar to stuffing a rag in the silencer.

So, yes, that is odd.
Could have also contributed to the not starting.
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 01-21-2013, 01:55 PM
mswilkes mswilkes is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Mountains of North Georgia
Posts: 35
Default Another Clue.....Good Lord

So, I got around to unpacking the silencer today and this was the result below. The packing was dripping in oil and when i removed the old packing the perforated inner tube is completely clogged with carbon, not just covered in oil but clogged. I am having to poke each little hole with a sharp object to break the carbon off. Might just buy a new one. Thank god i bought this bike so cheap.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMAG0133.jpg (75.6 KB, 34 views)
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 01-21-2013, 02:36 PM
pscook's Avatar
pscook pscook is offline
Platinum Level Site Supporter
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 1,164
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mswilkes View Post
So, I got around to unpacking the silencer today and this was the result below. The packing was dripping in oil and when i removed the old packing the perforated inner tube is completely clogged with carbon, not just covered in oil but clogged. I am having to poke each little hole with a sharp object to break the carbon off. Might just buy a new one. Thank god i bought this bike so cheap.
Put that on the end of a stick and sell it to an angry villager! Perfect for chasing Frankenstein out of town.

Use a good propane torch to burn everything out from the tube, then attack with a wire brush. Good as used in no time.
__________________
Phil
(New bike pending...)
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 01-21-2013, 06:02 PM
cbutler's Avatar
cbutler cbutler is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hot Springs AR
Posts: 709
Default

I think that bike should have a AJP clutch not the magura. I have a 02 EC 200 and a 03 MC 250 and they both have AJP's on them.
__________________

02 EC 200
03 MC 250
88 VT 800
01 TXT 280
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 01-22-2013, 03:16 AM
Caravan Monster's Avatar
Caravan Monster Caravan Monster is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Northamptonshire, England
Posts: 315
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mswilkes View Post
.....a good 8 to 12 ounces of oil had been sitting in the bend of the pipe.....
Is it fuel / 2 stroke oil or gearbox oil ?
__________________
'00 Montesa Cota 315R
'13 Husaberg TE 300
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help! Flywheel weight doesn't fit with 2k3 on 2003 EC250? SideshowBob Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 12 04-28-2010 11:02 PM
02 EC 300 wont start GENO 300 Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 0 09-21-2009 10:02 PM
EC200 wont start Skele Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 25 09-06-2009 10:34 AM
wont start clerky clerk Enduro Engine - 2 stroke 8 11-01-2008 01:18 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2009 - GasGasRider.org