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husley 12-27-2014 09:43 PM

Make a GG 200 as torquey as a KTM 200. Possible?
 
Is it possible to tune a GG 200 to make it as torquey as a 200 XCW off the bottom?

Between the Wife and I we have had multiple KTM and GG 200s in the fleet but I always thought her GG 200 was 'flat' off of the bottom while my orange 200 was always pretty torquey.

Can one make the GG 200 have the low-end torque a XCW does?

Looking to buy a new 200 and really want the GG handling however I really want some low-end as well (I'm a trials rider at heart).


Thanks and Happy New Year!

J

memphis2857 12-27-2014 10:24 PM

Maybe a little jetting work and a flywheel weight


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SS109 12-27-2014 11:47 PM

Well, it should be fairly easy to get the low end grunt up since it already has a longer stroke than the KTM.

I would concentrate on two cheap mods, ignition timing and jetting. Try advancing it a bit and see how it feels. Keep advancing until the loss of top end is too much for your liking and then retard it just enough to get it back. Then proceed on to getting the jetting spot on. Between the two you can really wake it up and tune it more to your riding style. After that things start costing some money. Adding a fww, intake/exhaust spacers, a new exhaust pipe tuned for more low end, RB head and carb mods, Vforce reed setup, gear ratio change, and having the cylinder ported.

husley 12-28-2014 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by memphis2857 (Post 145768)
Maybe a little jetting work and a flywheel weight


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Thank You

husley 12-28-2014 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS109 (Post 145771)
Well, it should be fairly easy to get the low end grunt up since it already has a longer stroke than the KTM.

I would concentrate on two cheap mods, ignition timing and jetting. Try advancing it a bit and see how it feels. Keep advancing until the loss of top end is too much for your liking and then retard it just enough to get it back. Then proceed on to getting the jetting spot on. Between the two you can really wake it up and tune it more to your riding style. After that things start costing some money. Adding a fww, intake/exhaust spacers, a new exhaust pipe tuned for more low end, RB head and carb mods, Vforce reed setup, gear ratio change, and having the cylinder ported.


Had not heard of tweaking ignition timing. Hmmm

Thank You

john r b 12-28-2014 08:13 AM

husley, please disclose year of bike,hours,mod's,and type of ignition??
I would correct squish and properly jet the 200,add a checkpoint pv cover
and leave off the fww. What silencer are you using?

(F5) 12-28-2014 11:46 AM

Head mod and LTR needle woke my 02 up heaps. Moving the ign didn't do anything helpful on the dyno.

firffighter 12-28-2014 01:49 PM

http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17772


I've owned 2 Gasgas 200's and 3 KTM 200's. The KTM just plain has a stronger motor. The Gasgas just plain handles better. Both great bikes and both have advantages and disadvantages. Like I mentioned in the thread above, my sons '99 EC200 has a nice strong motor. Even after changing out the 2k3 for the 2k2 on my '03 the '99 is stronger. With identical jetting, gearing, etc. I've narrowed it down to the pipe. Unfortunately FMF does not make that pipe any longer.

2taddict 12-28-2014 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by firffighter (Post 145817)
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=17772


I've owned 2 Gasgas 200's and 3 KTM 200's. The KTM just plain has a stronger motor. The Gasgas just plain handles better. Both great bikes and both have advantages and disadvantages. Like I mentioned in the thread above, my sons '99 EC200 has a nice strong motor. Even after changing out the 2k3 for the 2k2 on my '03 the '99 is stronger. With identical jetting, gearing, etc. I've narrowed it down to the pipe. Unfortunately FMF does not make that pipe any longer.

A DEP system did it on my WR250

SS109 12-29-2014 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (F5) (Post 145809)
Moving the ign didn't do anything helpful on the dyno.

Yep, it won't change the overall power at all. It only changes where that power is delivered.


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