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If you have a DE model with the small ignition, you may want to try adding some flywheel weight to smooth out the power. Here in Minnesota where I live, it is always wet and sloppy in the spring and I run a small weight on my 300 to make slogging through slippery roots and rocks easier for long enduros. Dave |
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Jetting is a personal choice so you have to try a few differant settings to see what works best for you. Skill level, riding style and your riding area will dictate which jetting is correct for you. For an 08 250EC used off road for trail riding, I would try a 42 pilot CCK#3 178 main, #7 slide and compare it with a 42-45 pilot DDK#3 175 main #7 slide for sea level, 65 degrees. The CCK will be smooth on the bottom with a good upper pull. The DDK will have a harder off idle pull with a torqy mid to top pull. The DDK needle will require more throttle control at small openings and likes to be rode under a load at wider throttle openings so it is for more skilled or open riding areas. Dave |
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178 main 42 pilot n1eg #3 The bike would stumble just before the power valve was starting to open so I lowered the needle to #2 and the stumble nearly disappeared. Weather was cold (about 45) and damp and engine was revving up too quickly. I'll try to see if I can get the DDK or HONDA needle. On what bike was the CCK a standard nozzle? |
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I've been on the Keihin site and cannot find the correct "reference" to the N3EG needle, they all list 3 letters as the reference after the N427-48 part number start. What would be the straight equivalent, or the closest to it on the Keihin site's number/letter scheme?
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The equivalent OEM needle diameter number for G is 66
It is the second pair of numbers, the first pair is the Taper and the last letter is the L1 length. These are for straight single taper needles, For multi-taper needles I can not find the equivalent on the Keihin site either. Maybe Pobit can help on this one since he has a lot of knowledge on jetting. |
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N3EG or any N series is not a standard Keihin needle, is a triple taper OEM needle for Yamaha. All you will find on the Keihin site is the standard single taper needles. The JD jetting XL spreadsheet is handy for comparing various needles, except his own of course!
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The N3EG is also a optional needle for KTM
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R 1369d Needle
Hi again Pobit.
I have been trying to set me 2008 ec250 but just can't get it right. I have tried the HONDA needle at 3.5 clip position 42pj and 178 mj air temp around 20 to 25C and the bike would really sputter all over the midrange so I changed the needle to the original N1EG #3 42 pj and went to a 175 mj. The 1/4 to full open throttle reposnse was goog but was rich right off idle to 1/8. It seems that this bike works better with the needle at #2. Should I try dropping the needle one clip? Can I put the 1369D at #2 or#3 and drop the main? I race in enduros and scrambles and I need power across the board but more in the low mid rev range. I like the motor to screem on top and lug on the bottom. Thanksj |
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Glenn I have an 07 250 with the heavier EC ignition that runs very clean except just off the bottom from idle to 1,000 rpm. If you run it that slow on a hill it will load up and require a down shift or clutch slip to clean out. Any suggestions?
Ken 178 main 42 pilot #7 slide stock needle clip : #3 position(temp. 40-50 degrees) next position leaner (51-75 degrees) top (76 degrees and above) |
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It seems I'm in the same situation as you with the exact symptoms. I went down on the main to 175 but lost a little on the top. Maybe if you go to a 40 pilot the off idle rich spot will go away. What needle are you using?
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